What is even the point of counterjungling anymore

Barkley··1 votes·346 views

Was just in a game as jax jungle vs an enemy volibear, and he got 2 camps (blue, wolves) for the first 6 minutes of the game.

Beyond this, I lived in his jungle. I took basically every single camp. He got nothing. His pathing was ridiculously predictable, and the game was 4v5 so I was under virtually no threat - so I just camped him to death.

Every single camp he went to, I was there to take it. Wherever he went, I was a step ahead of him. He literally followed behind me for a full rotation of all 4 quadrants at one point. Didn't get a single camp out of all 12 camps, and no crabs. A FULL rotation.

This kid should have been hardstuck at like.... level 4. He should have been absolutely worthless. He should have ragequit, knowing he'd absolutely NEVER be relevant in the game.

I should have had 2-3 levels on him, maybe even 4. He was getting NOTHING.

But no. He was a level behind me or the same level for most of the game.

What the hell is even the point of aggressively counterjungling if you can't even put your opponent at a level disadvantage? Sure, he ended up about 1.5k gold down in the matchup, but he still got his levels. He still got ranks in his skills. He still got his stats per level. He still got his ultimate when he was supposed to. And he's volibear - he's a tank. Tanks are naturally low economy champions.

Here are some images to show what happened. This is a breakdown of who killed what, where

This is the end game score screen that shows the player levels

In what world is it ok for a player that has killed 77 jungle monsters to be the same level as a player who has killed 38 jungle monsters?

Are you telling me that 30 lane minions makes up for almost 40 jungle minions? What sense does that make?

Why? What the hell is this?

Between this, and taking away wards almost completely from junglers - I don't even know why anyone would bother trying to counter jungle anymore. Its worthless.

Sure, I had 1.7k more gold than him, but thats from objective/kill gold. I had 2 more kills than him, and 2 assists. One of those kills was a shutdown bonus on the enemy kindred. I also helped with turret first blood, and 2 additional towers.

So what the hell advantage did I get by literally denying volibear almost EVERY SINGLE CAMP FOR THE WHOLE GAME?

NOTHING. A couple hundred gold, maybe. Woopie. So worth.

This is total bullshit.

2 Comments

Barkley1 votes

This needs attention so I'm commenting on it. I really wanna know why this acceptable.

ZephyrDrake1 votes

considering that jungle camps have largely different values so they aren't all worth the same... it's very easy to just keep up in gold and exp specially if he went to lane and just took minions from there, they still provide gold and exp. Even better if he was by himself when he took said CS. You say you were living in his jungle yet you were only about 30 CS ahead of him.... ok he had the mid lane pretty much for himself since there was no midlaner there so any minions that was there was his for taking. There is a reason why Junglers are usually behind in gold and exp than laners. Minion gold and exp is better than jungle gold and exp in most situations

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