Is Luden's Echo a dead item?

Twilit Angel·4/1/2019, 10:26:18 AM·1 votes·1,564 views

item 3285 Just seems really weak whenever I, or see someone else build it. 9/10 item 3165 is better as a first buy. Did Luden's get a nerf awhile back? Or did Morello get buffed?

Even looking at some core AP builds they just skip it now and build item 3165 item 3020 item 3089 item 3135. Something happened I'm unaware of for sure, but the cdr and mana refund just don't seem to be worth losing the early magic-pen.

5 Comments

mack91124/1/2019, 11:09:19 AM3 votes

Ludens is like the best first buy for so many champions

Dynikus4/1/2019, 10:56:47 AM2 votes

Did I miss something? Every mage I've looked up so far still builds it as a first item. It offers almost everything you need early. Unless the champion builds something else with the same passive, I don't know what mages you're looking at that don't build it. Unless this is a weird April fool's joke maybe? [sg-lux-2]

Silly Neeko4/1/2019, 10:47:25 AM1 votes

It depends on the champion you are playing.... who you are playing against... and your play style.

Ludins works quite well for me, because otherwise I do not have the little extra bit of damage... along with an easy 40-45% cdr early on.

Other times i like Rod of Ages because it gives a little more sustain.

Other times I will go for Liandries after a tear and wait to get the Archangels staff.... it just depends on my mood at that point in time and who i am playing as mostly.

MordridtheBlack4/1/2019, 12:03:24 PM1 votes

the main reasons I could see people buying Morell first is if;

The enemy champion is an "anti-mage" (i.e. Galio, Malzahar, etc).

The enemy champion is building MR/Armor early.

The enemy champion has high health regen.

heroikc4/1/2019, 4:14:06 PM1 votes

I typically rush Luden's first on most mages for the mana, poke, and cdr.