This cycle and a couple cycles before this one, Nunu has received changes to his kit just to have them later reverted back to live. This time they didn't even make it off the Air Client. What's going on with Nunu over there?
Troy2426212 votesHe's hard to fix because he's a designated counterjungler in a game where heavy counterjungling, aside from buffs, has negligible effects and is seldom worth the risk. I'd rather play a high impact jungler than mildly lower the enemy jungler's income.
He still has objective securing but honestly that's not enough to justify using him.
Jbels1 votesHe's hard to fix because he's a designated counterjungler in a game where heavy counterjungling, aside from buffs, has negligible effects and is seldom worth the risk. I'd rather play a high impact jungler than mildly lower the enemy jungler's income.
He still has objective securing but honestly that's not enough to justify using him.
I mean, it was worthwhile with Rek'sai, but she's been nerfed constantly
Meep Man1 votesThe problem with counter jungle Nunu is that he can't duel early all that well so he basically relies on stealing everything from the enemy Jungler without them just walking into his jungle and taking his stuff. Basically, in order for Nunu counter jungle to work, you need a full team dedicated to defending your Jungle. However, even then, Nunu's clear speed for early camps isn't quick enough for him to raid the enemy Jungle and get out with a net gain of gold.
If we honestly want Nunu to go back to his super counterjungle days, his Q would need to deal incredible amounts of more damage (something like 700/850/1000/1150/1300 from the current 400/550/700/850/1000) and have it's cool down reduced heavily (something like 9/8.5/8/7.5/7 seconds from the current 13/12/11/10/9 seconds). The main question is how much would this break the epic monster system?
Troy2426211 votes[{quoted}](name=NMF Jbels,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2BAmcN0Y,comment-id=00020000,timestamp=2016-09-13T13:49:48.739+0000)
I mean, it was worthwhile with Rek'sai, but she's been nerfed constantly
Rek'Sai never put all her eggs in the "put the enemy jungler behind to make them as useless as you are" basket. She can still gank exceptionally well and has hard CC.
What I meant was, Nunu came from an era where that used to be a legitimate strategy. You could put them hundreds of gold and several levels behind.
Meep Man1 votesI remember back in the day when Nunu gained 108 health per level and his Q healed him for 345 (+100% AP)
GayFluffyUnicorn1 votesU can still do it it's just harder.
TaoistMaster2 voteslets rework him into a support
Maximum Morde1 votesThey are trying to find something for Nunu that makes him worthwhile.
Oleandervine2 votes[{quoted}](name=Maximum Morde,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2BAmcN0Y,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-13T12:14:32.812+0000)
They are trying to find something for Nunu that makes him worthwhile.
Note - Bandaid fix him since his kit is like a 66' Chevy Truck that had the engine fall out on your way home.
Meep Man2 votesNah, he's more like a nuclear energy powered engine. Hard to make changes to without blowing up and ruining the surrounding countryside.
The Yetii Rider1 votesThe PBE is a testing ground of changes. Nothing that gets put on there is guaranteed to go live.
Nunu's kit is incredibly hard to fix, primarily because he's essentially a Warden without hard CC. He would do much better as a Vanguard but I think Riot is afraid of giving him more mobility.
Like I think the only thing Nunu needs is a leap forward on his ultimate that sends people crashing into the air as he channels (like Malphite, but no CC immunity during the leap and no damage on the knock up)
Meep Man1 votesI am aware of this. However, the reverted change to his ultimate was the change reverted in the PBE cycle before that and then was added back this PBE cycle and then got reverted again along with the attack speed buff change (before it was even implemented in-game outside of the Air client I must note). I'm less complaining and saying "WTF Rito, make up your mind" and more asking "Are we looking to change Nunu soon, and, if we are, how?"
The Yetii Rider2 votesI think the answers to those questions are quite clearly "Yes" and "We have no clue" based on Riots behavior.
morris11 votesMeanwhile Kindred...
Meep Man1 votesYeah, but she is not in the same state as current Nunu
Meep Man1 votesIf you guys are trying to improve Nunu, please buff his Jungle. It's his main position and currently he only really offers good objective control ever since he was nerfed out of counter jungling. I think it would be nice if you guys did something along the lines of:
Q- Consume
W- Blood Boil
R- Absolute Zero
I feel like these would be good changes until Nunu gets a VGU. These would put him back as a counter jungle champion while also buffing his Support play style. This would also shove him further away from Top Lane since that is a position that Riot has stated they REALLY would rather not have Nunu since his sustain from Consume can make him extremely annoying when he is good. The cool down reduction on Consume upon killing targets will help him counter jungle a ton while the increased damage on Q will secure Nunu as an objective champion.
Wind Whistler1 votesThey want to change a champion to make them cooler, then they realize the champion they're about to change is Nunu, so they immediately revert the changes.
