Reduce Hourglas cooldown to 60 seconds so we can have some counterplay to Zed as adc

Heko The Man··4 votes·1,252 views

Since qss doesn't remove zeds ult anymore the only way to deal with him as ADC is to... well buy zhonyas. since zhonyas is very expensive and on most adc's doesn't give any stats except it's active cooldown should be reduced. BUT THAT'S OP WTF ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? well.. zed's ult cd is very short. shorter than zhonyas, he can use it twice in 1 long fight.

solution? bring back QSS or buff zhonyas.

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Who Fed Ru7 votes

solution?

don't be shit and position correctly xd

The thigh guy2 votes

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solution?

don't be shit and position correctly xd

Oh yes position well against the guy with 2 dashes and 2 teleports. Okay.

Who Fed Ru3 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2AqQQQoz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T19:23:32.701+0000)

Oh yes position well against the guy with 2 dashes and 2 teleports. Okay.

yup because he is insta dead when he gets cc'ed in the enemy backline xd

The thigh guy2 votes

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yup because he is insta dead when he gets cc'ed in the enemy backline xd

Good joke.

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Who Fed Ru2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2AqQQQoz,comment-id=0000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T19:32:23.972+0000)

Good joke.

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So black cleaver is a defensive item now? lmao that 400 HP will do just as much as the spellshield if you instantly eat 20 spells the moment you come out of your Ult as it basically announces that you will land behind the enemy champ after a second.

If you just dive like a r%%%%% in with W + R you get cc'ed instantly, and even if you manage to get back to your R shadow the enemy frontline will have moved up to there and finish you, at least in any elo above silver xd

The thigh guy1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Who Fed Ru,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2AqQQQoz,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T19:38:30.531+0000)

So black cleaver is a defensive item now? lmao that 400 HP will do just as much as the spellshield if you instantly eat 20 spells the moment you come out of your Ult as it basically announces that you will land behind the enemy champ after a second.

If you just dive like a r%%%%% in with W + R you get cc'ed instantly, and even if you manage to get back to your R shadow the enemy frontline will have moved up to there and finish you, at least in any elo above silver xd

400 hp. Immunity to a spell. Invincibility frames, instant speed combos, instant speed “rito plz help” button.

But yeah. So squishy. So fucked when he gets near someone

Who Fed Ru2 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2AqQQQoz,comment-id=000000000000000000000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T21:01:44.082+0000)

400 hp. Immunity to a spell. Invincibility frames, instant speed combos, instant speed “rito plz help” button.

But yeah. So squishy. So fucked when he gets near someone

deez bronzies yikes

CaptainAntiHeroz2 votes

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deez bronzies yikes

lol like "wow assassins kill adcs?!" whoda thunk that would ever happen lmao

CaptainAntiHeroz3 votes

[{quoted}](name=The thigh guy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2AqQQQoz,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T19:23:32.701+0000)

Oh yes position well against the guy with 2 dashes and 2 teleports. Okay.

Vision is the key to success if you ward and hes not there he probably cant reach you without wasting those abilities cutting the damage, plus adc's litterally come with a babysitter, as a support main there is no sympathy for you adcs getting bursted by assassins.... THE THING THATS MEANT TO COUNTER YOU

The thigh guy1 votes

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Vision is the key to success if you ward and hes not there he probably cant reach you without wasting those abilities cutting the damage, plus adc's litterally come with a babysitter, as a support main there is no sympathy for you adcs getting bursted by assassins.... THE THING THATS MEANT TO COUNTER YOU

Vision?

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CaptainAntiHeroz4 votes

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Vision?

*laughs in item 3147 *

well stop facechecking bushes wtf u want 8000 hp too? and lemme guess a free GA passive, a heal whenever you take any damage whatsoever and 300 armor so that not only do you do the ADC role, but youre also the top laner, the jungler, the support, the mid laner, a ward, the raid boss.... like serious its ATTACK DAMAGE CARRY not TANK DAMAGE CARRY ON

The thigh guy1 votes

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well stop facechecking bushes wtf u want 8000 hp too? and lemme guess a free GA passive, a heal whenever you take any damage whatsoever and 300 armor so that not only do you do the ADC role, but youre also the top laner, the jungler, the support, the mid laner, a ward, the raid boss.... like serious its ATTACK DAMAGE CARRY not TANK DAMAGE CARRY ON

Oh yes. I’m definetly face checking a bush sitting under my turret for zed to 100/0 with no counterplay. Totally just checking the bush a ivern put in my lane or some shit. :/

Heko The Man1 votes

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solution?

don't be shit and position correctly xd

even zwaq who's xerath challenger main dodges when he sees zed and this guy knows how to position himself

Who Fed Ru1 votes

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even zwaq who's xerath challenger main dodges when he sees zed and this guy knows how to position himself

Who?

And well, ofc I would prob dodge too if I blind pick Xerath and the enemies pick my hardest counter.

Heko The Man1 votes

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Who?

And well, ofc I would prob dodge too if I blind pick Xerath and the enemies pick my hardest counter.

hardest counter to xerath is yasuo and he doesn't dodge when he sees yasuo, he just doesn't like playing against zed in general because he can totally fuck up and get out unpunished.

Who Fed Ru1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Heko The Man,realm=EUW,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2AqQQQoz,comment-id=0000000100000000,timestamp=2019-06-30T19:40:11.246+0000)

hardest counter to xerath is yasuo and he doesn't dodge when he sees yasuo, he just doesn't like playing against zed in general because he can totally fuck up and get out unpunished.

If you say so it must be true xd

CaptainAntiHeroz6 votes

ah, i see the problem..... item 3157 on an ADC to beat a champ that has been under-performing.... sounds like a real problem........ jk have you seen TahmKench we have LITERAL bigger fish to fry than "adc's being bursted by assassins" either get with your support or dont go anywhere without good ass item 3187________________ item 3348

Dusky Dolphin2 votes

Well it´s the Job of a Zed Player to kill high priority targets like adc and midlaners

Skyshadow1151 votes

zed countrplay is early ga as adc and staying near your team he is pretty op tho

Heko The Man2 votes

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zed countrplay is early ga as adc and staying near your team he is pretty op tho

he can just ult you and dash away unpunished, grouping won't help, that's why we need item called QSS back to league of legends or counterplay to zed. not nerfs to zed but COUNTERPLAY.

Saezio1 votes

Your counterplay is having people to peel you, having shields, stopwatch,GA, PD. It's not like Zed's R has 2k range either.

Red Mage FTS1 votes

One would think that if you saw a zed and did not have adequit peel for you, youd get clense or barrior.

O Fallen Scholar1 votes

You buy stopwatch which transitions into GA. Why bother with Zhonyas? Waste of an item. Work on your positioning and outplay him.

Milee171 votes

Zed is really bad late game (if he doesnt split, even usles), he is only strong early and mid game since thats where he abuse his ult and gets those insta kills ... however i wouldn't say he is "op" or "there is no counter for him" etc etc ... just learn to play and thats it ... buffing zhonya would just broke the game and meta ... and there really is no point building ap item on a adc (unless you're corki but he is not a ADC or playable for last 2 years lol)

However I do agree that QSS needs some changes ... it builds into a usless item noone even use for the stats, but just for active ... in my opinion they should change GA and give it a Zhonyas active and remove the passive "die and get revived" bs ... it could help out adcs and bruisers, even tho that could break the game even harder than zhonyas buff lol

KFCeytron1 votes

Maybe you could block the Mark damage with Edge of Night's active? If you're not taking any other damage, you can wait for Zed to ult, combo, and blink back, then use that shield.

Lux Tizer1 votes

What lmao

Dr Apathy1 votes

Again please look at zeds performance in any elo above diamond and realizd maybe, but just maybe you position like shit. Lmao this hurts to read considering velkoz can delete the adc and support from range and have leftovers to melt frontline, zed gets one kill then becomes useless for 30-45 sec. Seriously why is he banned so much in iron and bronze but diamond + his banrate falls off with wr and pr.

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