positioned well, played passive and was way ahead of farm
then she built stinger,
and it didn't matter anyway she still half health me with just her E while my windwall can't block it for shit, and all of a sudden she is caught up with my farm so easily.
so wtf is this suppose to be?.....
Zero Skill Tank10 voteswait no you can't mean that no that just can't be true
Yasuo actually doesn't counter everyone?
Randomonium2 votesKayle nerfs confirmed for patch 6.6
Dominick Destine5 votesThis is a subtle but at the same time obvious "Hey look guise, Yasuo isn't OP, pls dont nerf" thread
Popstar Ahri1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2016-03-12T18:06:50.265+0000)
This is a subtle but at the same time obvious "Hey look guise, Yasuo isn't OP, pls dont nerf" thread
http://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Middle
?
hes perfectly fine just the way he is
unless you are a platinum with over 300 games with a 48% winrate maining supports along with one of the easiest assassin in the game complaining about him
DrNova2 votes[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-03-12T18:13:44.483+0000)
http://champion.gg/champion/Yasuo/Middle
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hes perfectly fine just the way he is
unless you are a platinum with over 300 games with a 48% winrate maining supports along with one of the easiest assassin in the game complaining about him
And Kayle is fine too. I see nothing wrong here.
Popstar Ahri1 votesAnd Kayle is fine too. I see nothing wrong here.
lmfao...
http://champion.gg/champion/Kayle/Middle
53% winrate at mid and 54% and it shows shes the top winrate spiking up
and this is coming out from a bronze 5 LOL
DrNova4 votes[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=0001000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-12T18:24:06.696+0000)
lmfao...
http://champion.gg/champion/Kayle/Middle
53% winrate at mid and 54% and it shows shes the top winrate spiking up
and this is coming out from a bronze 5 LOL
My rank has nothing to do with anything. The fact that you brought it up means you have no real argument.
She has less then a 2% pick rate.
Her winrate starts diving at about 30 min.
Her kDa average is about 6-5-6, which likely means her ult is what's helping her tiny player base of mains do well with her.
Nearly 75% of her recorded games players have 15 games or less on her. So a few mains mostly using her. At high elo.
She is fine. I'd like to hear a real argument otherwise outside of winrate, which with a less then 2% play rate is not a real argument.
Popstar Ahri1 votesMy rank has nothing to do with anything. The fact that you brought it up means you have no real argument.
She has less then a 2% pick rate.
Her winrate starts diving at about 30 min.
Her kDa average is about 6-5-6, which likely means her ult is what's helping her tiny player base of mains do well with her.
Nearly 75% of her recorded games players have 15 games or less on her. So a few mains mostly using her. At high elo.
She is fine. I'd like to hear a real argument otherwise outside of winrate, which with a less then 2% play rate is not a real argument.
the fact that u were stuck in bronze 3 seasons straight
while in fact its so easy to get out of from what I have seen, no one knowing how to farm, decision make, farm, conserve summoner, countering, building, side stepping, map awareness, not know how to last hit. from what I have seen
DrCyanide1 votesHonestly, this looks like you admitting defeat to someone with Bronze level mechanics. You can't come up with some Gold level reason why Kayle is a touch strong?
Beldair1 votesKayle is neither strong nor weak.
And of course she'd have a high win rate....seeing as her pick rate is low.
Like Cyanide had said, besides win rate....what is your reasoning on Kayle being strong?
DrNova1 votes[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=000100000000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-12T19:11:26.155+0000)
the fact that u were stuck in bronze 3 seasons straight
while in fact its so easy to get out of from what I have seen, no one knowing how to farm, decision make, farm, conserve summoner, countering, building, side stepping, map awareness, not know how to last hit. from what I have seen
I still hear no facts about Kayle being too strong. I guess we are done here.
Dominick Destine1 votesMy rank has nothing to do with anything. The fact that you brought it up means you have no real argument.
You are too soft.
Look at his stats, he literally has worse stats than a Bronze 5... not only is his argument complete trash, if he is judged by the very metric he is using... he ends up looking even worse.
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-03-12T18:13:44.483+0000)
48% winrate
Win-rate-in-isolation argument. Fallacious nonsense noted and dismissed.
unless you are a platinum with over 300 games with a 48% winrate maining supports along with one of the easiest assassin in the game complaining about him
Awfully big talk from a beneath-even-bronze-level Yasuo/Zed main.
I might be slightly offended if you weren't such a terribly common cliché. http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/NA/Popstar%20Ahri/summary
You main a broken character and secondarily play an overpowered character; Both among the easiest champions in the game by far and you are still ranked even below bronze. You talking trash is a very 'quaint' notion, sir.... I hope you have enjoyed that bronze border for the past few years because it is unlikely to change anytime soon...
At first I thought;
This is a subtle but at the same time obvious "Hey look guise, Yasuo isn't OP, pls dont nerf" thread
But now I realize that you legitimately believe Kayle is too strong... WHILE MAINING YASUO AND ZED, LOL. That is very amusing that I gave you too much credit and in fact, the reality was much worse.
Kayle does not need nerfs.
Popstar Ahri1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=000100000001,timestamp=2016-03-12T19:47:15.502+0000)
Win-rate-in-isolation argument. Fallacious nonsense noted and dismissed.
Awfully big talk from a beneath-even-bronze-level Yasuo/Zed main.
I might be slightly offended if you weren't such a terribly common cliché. http://www.lolskill.net/summoner/NA/Popstar%20Ahri/summary
You main a broken character and secondarily play an overpowered character; Both among the easiest champions in the game by far and you are still ranked even below bronze. You talking trash is a very 'quaint' notion, sir.... I hope you have enjoyed that bronze border for the past few years because it is unlikely to change anytime soon...
At first I thought;
But now I realize that you legitimately believe Kayle is too strong... WHILE MAINING YASUO AND ZED, LOL. That is very amusing that I gave you too much credit and in fact, the reality was much worse.
Kayle does not need nerfs.
and u have multiple supports as most played aka luggage that you have negative winrate with, and playing as eve being one of the most easiesst assassin has no where the same gameplay knowledge and outplay potential as zed, yasuo and etc. Explain why we see so much zed, yas and other assassin plays more than eve does? no one is interested in seeing a point and click champ montage nor is there any skills in that nothing but positioning and decison making.
And you seem biased too, since I don't see you play adc mid and top now do I? obviously don't know the other side of the story as well, as you get carried and abuse eve to plat but yet still stuck at below 50% winrate meaning losing way more LP than you are earning which results with being stuck at ur elo longer or maybe forever. Maybe another 3rd-4th time of playing ur 1000th game to diamond 5 this season would work again like u did at ur previous seasons right? And looking from your champ pool I rarely ever see a champ u have are just as skilled as other assassins you play
I would like to see you try to play zed, yasuo or any other higher skilled assassins at ur plat elo, we weill see how long you last, oh wait.. u cant? LOL ok pal
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=0001000000010000,timestamp=2016-03-12T22:21:17.679+0000)
and u have multiple supports as most played
What's your point?
you have negative winrate with
Once again, what's your point?
and playing as eve being one of the most easiesst assassin
Evelynn is significantly harder than brainlessly easy champs like Yasuo and Zed.
has no where the same gameplay knowledge and outplay potential as zed, yasuo
Lol. Yasuo and Zed don't even have mana. Yasuo and Zed have multiple escape mechanisms. Yasuo and Zed have anomalously high base stats and base MS. Therefore Yasuo and Zed have a much greater margin of error than Evelynn. Yasuo and Zed are much easier and require significantly lower skill.
Explain why we see so much zed, yas ... than eve does?
Because they're overpowered. That's why they are picked more often.
And you seem biased too, since I don't see you play jungle mid and top now do I?
.... are you drunk? that didn't even make sense.
as you get carried and abuse eve
It's a bit difficult for me to get carried when I play Evelynn given that I carry the majority of my matches as her. Good try though.
to plat but yet still stuck at below 50% winrate
What's your point? my wins are against other platinums. Your wins are against bronzies.
Guess which matches are valued higher...
being stuck at ur elo longer or maybe forever.
Unlikely.
I have a Diamond border for S6. I will have a Diamond border for S7. I hope you enjoy your brown border because you will always have it.
I would like to see you try to play zed, yasuo or any other low skilled champion
Fixed.
And no thanks, I dislike Yasuo and Zed... brainlessly easy, overpowered champions are not my thing.
Anyway, it was entertaining to decimate a trash talking bronzie but I think I have done so long enough, gg'd hard
Popstar Ahri1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=00010000000100000000,timestamp=2016-03-12T22:29:24.595+0000)
What's your point?
Once again, what's your point?
Evelynn is significantly harder than brainlessly easy champs like Yasuo and Zed.
Lol. Yasuo and Zed don't even have mana. Yasuo and Zed have multiple escape mechanisms. Yasuo and Zed have anomalously high base stats and base MS. Therefore Yasuo and Zed have a much greater margin of error than Evelynn. Yasuo and Zed are much easier and require significantly lower skill.
Because they're overpowered. That's why they are picked more often.
.... are you drunk? that didn't even make sense.
It's a bit difficult for me to get carried when I play Evelynn given that I carry the majority of my matches as her. Good try though.
What's your point? my wins are against other platinums. Your wins are against bronzies.
Guess which matches are valued higher...
Unlikely.
I have a Diamond border for S6. I will have a Diamond border for S7. I hope you enjoy your brown border because you will always have it.
Fixed.
And no thanks, I dislike Yasuo and Zed... brainlessly easy, overpowered champions are not my thing.
Anyway, it was entertaining to decimate a trash talking bronzie but I think I have done so long enough, gg'd hard
1:playing a bunch of supports that 85% of the time you get carried
getting carried isnt hard
yep you are biased, unlike me I adventure my way through and listen to other diamond overlords on GD, and other places except for reddit and gameplay
? Theres nothing hard about spamming ur Q and positoning, lol, and its not hard to know what u have to build in a situation ur in
5.Fixed the word "jg" to adc, whoopee doo I made a mistake
Man... you seem to be forgetting about what their kit is, on how fun they are, do ppl still play viktor while he was still broken at the 47% winrate? think again nope, it is below 5%, and I myself main viktor, before riven received her buffs at the time she is at 43% winrate, she still had a 15-17% winrate, its because of her fanbase and playstyle, just like lee sin which he is at the 44% winrate known for his fun kit but falls hard late game
I was saying Carried as in "playing supports" and "abusing eve" what dont you udnerstand?
"against bronzies" man.. u really havent done ur hw really huh? gold and all other elo can only be matched with 1 league between high and low, and the fact the majority of the plats and golds at the begginning of the season I know of gets placed at silver
at least I never took my time to waste over 1k games playing a boring af easy assassin champ along with getting carried by playing supports
well guess what? 80% of what I hated turned to the point I understand balance more other than maining one single role.
and you must have not known that Mages and supports are considered the easiest role right?... because of how dominant they had been, but not at the moment right now since hexdrinker and steraks are fucking over the ap itemization at the moment
Dominick Destine1 votes[{quoted}](name=Popstar Ahri,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=000100000001000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-12T22:41:04.095+0000)
1:playing a bunch of supports that 85% of the time you get carried
What's your point?
- getting carried isnt hard
Apparently it is given that you've been consistently in bronze (Before you say it; It's the same thing) regardless of your efforts.
- ? Theres nothing hard about spamming ur Q and positoning
Evelynn is about timing and positioning.... her margin of error is very small, meaning if you screw up as Evelynn, you die.
If you screw up as Zed or Yasuo, you have many mechanisms and high base stats that make it very difficult to fail. They are the definition of "easy" characters.
- Man... you seem to be forgetting about what their kit is,
Nope.
- I was saying Carried as in "playing supports" and "abusing eve" what dont you udnerstand?
The part where it is incoherent jibberish.
What is your point ? you say things but they mean nothing... I guess if you had substance you probably wouldn't be bronze.
and you must have not known that Mages and supports are considered the easiest role right?
Anecdotal at best and objectively nonsense.
Evelynn for example has a much higher required skill than many other champions by Riot's own metric. That's a terrible metric but if we view the differences in margin of error, Evelynn ranks as one of the most difficult with garbage-easy/overpowered characters like Zed and Yasuo at the smack dab bottom/easiest.
Basically, you're a terrible player making terrible arguments. Stay bronze (as if you had a choice). You belong there.
Popstar Ahri1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dominick Destine,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=2Aen9lRG,comment-id=0001000000010000000000000000,timestamp=2016-03-12T22:53:09.825+0000)
What's your point?
Apparently it is given that you've been consistently in bronze (Before you say it; It's the same thing) regardless of your efforts.
Evelynn is about timing and positioning.... her margin of error is very small, meaning if you screw up as Evelynn, you die.
If you screw up as Zed or Yasuo, you have many mechanisms and high base stats that make it very difficult to fail. They are the definition of "easy" characters.
Nope.
The part where it is incoherent jibberish.
What is your point ? you say things but they mean nothing... I guess if you had substance you probably wouldn't be bronze.
Anecdotal at best and objectively nonsense.
Evelynn for example has a much higher required skill than many other champions by Riot's own metric. That's a terrible metric but if we view the differences in margin of error, Evelynn ranks as one of the most difficult with garbage-easy/overpowered characters like Zed and Yasuo at the smack dab bottom/easiest.
Basically, you're a terrible player making terrible arguments. Stay bronze (as if you had a choice). You belong there.
lmfao, and did u really think I grinded ranked as much as u did? nope, or could u even consider it grinding?
I was matched in a ranked game between gold 3-plat 5, got in g2 promos but ended getting an afker and a troll in 2 of my games last season and u even spealt the word Gibberish (Jibberish) wrong LOL, and how old are you exactly?
http://i.imgur.com/eJaky6m.png
http://i.imgur.com/g9o9Kti.png
you still haven't told me your excuse how you have to grind over 1k ranked games just to get to diamond 5, and lets not forget d5 is known to be the worst 5th division out of all from what I heard from multiple people that are from there.
Ralanr2 votesYour counter. Duh.
Stars Shaper1 votesThis, as much as I defend Yasuo... a counter is a counter, and Kayle is probably the worst after Akali. You have to rely on your team to deal with her.
NoPaxt1 votesNeed more strategy than just windwall it doesn't block splash damage.... Her swords range with her E is amazing but Kayle is a hybrid damage dealer Hex/Maw alone can't handle her damage.
Salron1 votesI mean blocking Q doesn't mean much if she's maxing E
Resent1 voteskayle E doesn't use a projectile so of course you can't block it xd..
ArlanKels1 votesI do wish Kayle's E had a bit more visual "Alert" to its activation. Sometimes I don't even realize she's popped it before SHREDSHREDSHRED OH GOD WHY WHYYYY
