Gold value of Executioner's Calling and Bramble Vest is ridiculous against Soraka

Cryptocurrency·9/9/2017, 9:13:39 AM·7 votes·1,160 views

http://leagueoflegends.wikia.com/wiki/Executioner%27s_Calling

You pay 375 gold for the passive. Soraka's W heals mid-game around 300 HP. Executioner will reduce it by 40%, by 120 HP which is worth 320 gold.

Executioner is basically already worth when it reduces one W and you will usually use it multiple times and don't forget the Q heal, the R heal, the summoner heal, redemption heal and ardent censer drain.

In mid diamond 8 out of 10 games the enemy adc buys executioner on the first back.

Bramble Vest is even worse where you only pay 200 for the passive (which is GW and reflecting 20 damage).

Taking a look at a typical teamfight: https://youtu.be/1r7YpckIL_I

It reduced 4 W heals, R (on 1 target) and summoner heal (on 1 target), equal to 780 Health or 2000 gold value. Yeah you read right 2000 gold value of a 375 gold item passive making the passive 533% gold efficient in a teamfight against Soraka (one of the most gold efficient items rageblade reached 160% only at max stacks). This is not even counting other heals on the team like Maokai passive, Kayn Ult, Ardent Censer, Vlad Q W, ADC lifesteal.

I don't know how GW can be considered a soft counter when it is so easy available (even a core item on mages) and has so much impact.

11 Comments

Anonagon9/9/2017, 10:48:52 AM5 votes

That's not a good way to think about gold value - that's like saying that cloth armor is worth the same as 50 AD because it will block 10% of a midgame carry's 500 damage auto. Trying to assign gold values in this way is just misleading.

Winterwings9/9/2017, 10:19:59 AM4 votes

The problem with GW coming from item 3123 isn't in the GW mechanic itself... It's in its application

Lets compare it with its counterparts item 3076 - Application REQUIRES YOU to autoattack the Champion carrying it (Anyone smart will realize it and won't autoattack the wielder if they want to heal back up) 900 Gold, 1 second GW duration. item 3165 - Very expensive. Application requires you to bring the target down below 35% Health to even get the GW on them. 2900 Gold, 8 seconds GW duration. item 3123 - Application -> LULZ JUST DO PHYSICAL DAMAGE xD. 800 Gold, 3 second GW duration.

So not only is it 100 gold cheaper than Bramble Vest, it even lasts longer, has easier application which doesn't rely on being autoed or dropping targets below a hp threshold AND on top of it all, it can be REAPPLIED WITH EACH AND EVERY AUTOATTACK AND PHYSICAL DAMAGE SPELL!

item 3033 - Let's not start talking about this one...

PePsiLemoNN9/9/2017, 3:55:21 PM1 votes

Good. Fuck Soraka.

RankOneUganda9/10/2017, 12:59:49 AM1 votes

still one of the highest winrate champs of all time since release

soraka is unhealthy and braindead. playing against her is a chore

Mama Soraka9/13/2017, 9:18:09 PM1 votes

[sg-soraka]

I feel like Executioners shouldn't be so easy too apply.. but I have no suggestions about how to fix it

DragonShea9/9/2017, 12:53:03 PM1 votes

Rammus basically got GW added to his Taunt with item 3076

Dehitay9/9/2017, 9:31:10 AM1 votes

Executioner's Calling is powerful against healing but comes at a delay of your powerspike so Soraka's adc should be able to outdamage the enemy adc as a result unless there's a significant difference in gold accumulation. And Bramblevest's grevious wounds only takes effect if you're autoattacking a tank.

Also, it's ridiculous to put gold value on instances of a heal. Do you realize this means the standard Soraka's W is worth millions of gold per game? That would be far more problematic than any item if that was the case.