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PSA to bronze teams.

Lmao Get Mooned·Aug 21, 2016·2 votes·616 views

Roses are red, Voilets are blue, if you push your lane, I wont gank you. I love how every game that I lose as a jungler even if i have a great kda is "WE HAD A BAD JG, NO GANKS!!11!!!1" Okay, maybe I couldn't gank because the enemy was warding better than you and playing more passive. Maybe you got ganked because you over extended the fuck out of your lane. Also, don't yell at me for not ganking your lane if you lose it, i'm actually not supposed to gank losing lanes. I'm going to get a person on our team fed that counters the enemy laner you fed by being a dipshit.

If you're an adc, I DON'T OWE YOU RED! if you're a mid laner I DON'T OWE YOU BLUE!

If you get ganked cause you didn't ward, don't yell my ass off that I didn't counter gank when i'm on the other side of the map ganking bot you stupid top laners. If you're laning against someone that can easily 2v1 people at an early level, don't expect early ganks. If i gank you, ATTACK THE GUY PLEASE! Don't expect me to 1v1 somebody because that defeats the entire point of ganking your lane. (except for when they're really low health of course)

Above all, know that I don't owe you ganks. Know that i'm losing time I could be farming and getting myself gold so I can gank your whiny ass and get you a kill.

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12 Comments

DynikusAug 21, 20162 votes

if you're a jungler that's not ganking, and taking every red and blue for yourself, you're only hurting your team. Your top laner is pushing his lane and might get ganked? be prepared to counter gank. You go to gank the lane when the enemy is pushing into the tower and your laner is oom and low on health? don't expect them to be able to do much to help you in the gank.

Fucking ShitAug 21, 20161 votes

You can gank a lane that is pushed with about 80 percent of junglers in the game.
Warding is a bullshit excuse because again like 50 percent of junglers can gank a lane so fast the ward doesn't even matter. If you can't, buy a sweeper like you are supposed to, clear the wards, take a camp, then come back. If they are pushed in look at Number 1.
You do gank losing lanes. This is the most bronze ass mentality i have ever seen and have no clue where you guys get this from. The only lane it might not apply to is top lane but mid and bot you keep ganking regardless of whether they are losing or not. A 3 v 2 is almost always a win for you unless the other lane has like 6 kills on your laner.
The mentality that one lane is losing so ill just gank for the lane that is winning so they can carry is ridiculous. One lane can carry an entire game maybe 10 percent of the time. Stop thinking that.
Post 15 min every red buff goes to your adc.
Your second blue should always go to your mid laner if they are ahead or are close to dominating the lane. If they aren't then take it but every one after that goes to them assuming they arent feeding insanely hard or are Yasuo.
The Jungler is basically a second support so you should be warding just as much. Thats how you know where their jungler is and where he/she is going to gank. If a lane is being camped over and over and you can't see where the jungler is before he ganks that isnt the laner's fault, it is yours because Refer to Number 2.
When you gank a lot of the time the laner doesnt need to kill the other guy or put themselves at risk of dying they just need pressure relieved so that is why they dont go all out trying to kill the other person. Every gank doesnt have to end with a kill to be a success.
You do owe your team ganks. Thats literally your entire purpose. Also, the jungler should have the least amount of gold on the teambesides the support so your cs and gold doesnt matter. Again you are a secondary support.

10 Before you say ah I don't know anything im just some scrub. I am in Diamond so I know what I am talking about. You are just a garbage jungler.

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Lmao Get MoonedAug 21, 20161 votes

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You can gank a lane that is pushed with about 80 percent of junglers in the game.

Warding is a bullshit excuse because again like 50 percent of junglers can gank a lane so fast the ward doesn't even matter. If you can't, buy a sweeper like you are supposed to, clear the wards, take a camp, then come back. If they are pushed in look at Number 1.

You do gank losing lanes. This is the most bronze ass mentality i have ever seen and have no clue where you guys get this from. The only lane it might not apply to is top lane but mid and bot you keep ganking regardless of whether they are losing or not. A 3 v 2 is almost always a win for you unless the other lane has like 6 kills on your laner.

The mentality that one lane is losing so ill just gank for the lane that is winning so they can carry is ridiculous. One lane can carry an entire game maybe 10 percent of the time. Stop thinking that.

Post 15 min every red buff goes to your adc.

Your second blue should always go to your mid laner if they are ahead or are close to dominating the lane. If they aren't then take it but every one after that goes to them assuming they arent feeding insanely hard or are Yasuo.

The Jungler is basically a second support so you should be warding just as much. Thats how you know where their jungler is and where he/she is going to gank. If a lane is being camped over and over and you can't see where the jungler is before he ganks that isnt the laner's fault, it is yours because Refer to Number 2.

When you gank a lot of the time the laner doesnt need to kill the other guy or put themselves at risk of dying they just need pressure relieved so that is why they dont go all out trying to kill the other person. Every gank doesnt have to end with a kill to be a success.

You do owe your team ganks. Thats literally your entire purpose. Also, the jungler should have the least amount of gold on the teambesides the support so your cs and gold doesnt matter. Again you are a secondary support.

10 Before you say ah I don't know anything im just some scrub. I am in Diamond so I know what I am talking about. You are just a garbage jungler.

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"A 3 v 2 is almost always a win for you unless the other lane has like 6 kills on your laner." Happens almost every game.

"The Jungler is basically a second support so you should be warding just as much." I do, and I deny vision with pinks and sweepers.

"You are just a garbage jungler." My Diamond coach doesn't seem to think so . "Post 15 min every red buff goes to your adc." I didn't actually know this, thanks for telling me . " Every gank doesnt have to end with a kill to be a success." I gank just to get flashes, even when i know i wont get the kill.

"One lane can carry an entire game maybe 10 percent of the time" Maybe in Diamond that's true.

Diamond is a completely different meta than bronze. In bronze it is far better to put my needs over the other players need because the chances are that they have no idea what the fuck they are doing. I agree with every one of your points, except in bronze a lot of this stuff just doesn't work how you think it does because you play in Diamond.

Fucking ShitAug 21, 20161 votes

Then play a different position then go back to jungle once you reach mid gold. I was bronze before then I just played darius all the way to Diamond. I am literally a darius one trick, hes all I play and hes easy to climb with

Lmao Get MoonedAug 21, 20161 votes

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Then play a different position then go back to jungle once you reach mid gold. I was bronze before then I just played darius all the way to Diamond. I am literally a darius one trick, hes all I play and hes easy to climb with

I play a lot of mid actually, I main Anivia and Viktor in the mid lane. I can also play Fizz and Zed pretty well too. I used to play top lane and i actually mained Darius. I just cant stand to play Darius anymore because of his lack of mobility. i can still play GangPlank and Irelia very well in the top lane. I also am a level 6 Vayne and do pretty well with her. So really the only role I haven't played for an extensive amount of time is support. I kept switching main roles because people would always feed in them and i can do it better. As a person with probably a high gold skill level, it isnt exactly easy to carry a bronze game when my botlane is 0/10 and top goes 0/5. That being said, if i have a good team, i play to their strengths and honor them after. It's just so rare to find a competent person in bronze games. If I have a good team and i know it, i win 90% of those games solely because they didn't feed their ass off. Do you mind if I friend you on league? You seem like a pretty cool guy and didn't treat me like to total dick when i made my returning side of the debate.

Fucking ShitAug 21, 20161 votes

yeah go for it

Baby GhoulAug 21, 20161 votes

After a certain amount of time, it stops being just your jungle. Just as the lanes become everyone's responsibility. If your mage needs blue, you give it to them. Why would you not give them everything they need to succeed?

You're more than welcome to farm a lane or even counter jungle. Maybe take an objective. I've never heard anyone complain about a lane being pushed mid to late game.

I'm a support main and if my ADC needs red, we're taking red. I'm not going to ask you, it's going to be gone. There's no reason a jungler should put up a fight over it by mid game.

Don't ever just leave a lane to rot, ever. Even when I'm the support I will roam to that lane and offer any assistance I can. Even if they were a complete jerk. They're part of your team, and when the team fighting starts happening you're going to be happy you gave them a hand. You do owe your team counter pressure.

Jungler and support are the most selfless roles in the game, the difference between the two is you don't have to sacrifice farm which puts you in a much better position to carry the game. When I see a jungler or support being selfish, I think what's the point? Pick another role. If you're a primadonna play ADC. Don't play a role where you're required to help teammates out more than usual. You get more pressure in these roles, so when I see a jungler cry, as a support main, I'm going to be playing the world's smallest violin for them. There's a reason your role is one of the most popular in the game. Suck it up.

Who is coaching you? I feel like all the tips from pros won't matter if you don't have the correct mindset. We all get bad or toxic teammates, so what? You move on and make the best of it.

Lmao Get MoonedAug 21, 20161 votes

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After a certain amount of time, it stops being just your jungle. Just as the lanes become everyone's responsibility. If your mage needs blue, you give it to them. Why would you not give them everything they need to succeed?

You're more than welcome to farm a lane or even counter jungle. Maybe take an objective. I've never heard anyone complain about a lane being pushed mid to late game.

I'm a support main and if my ADC needs red, we're taking red. I'm not going to ask you, it's going to be gone. There's no reason a jungler should put up a fight over it by mid game.

Don't ever just leave a lane to rot, ever. Even when I'm the support I will roam to that lane and offer any assistance I can. They're part of your team, and when the team fighting starts happening you're going to be happy you gave them a hand. You do owe your team counter pressure.

Jungler and support are the most selfless roles in the game, the difference between the two is you don't have to sacrifice farm which puts you in a much better position to carry the game. When I see a jungler or support being selfish, I think what's the point? Pick another role. If you're a primadonna play ADC. Don't play a role where you're required to help teammates out more than usual. You get more pressure in these roles, but when I see a jungler cry, as a support main, I'm going to be playing the world's smallest violin for them. There's a reason your role is one of the most popular in the game. Suck it up.

Who is coaching you? I feel like all the tips from pros won't matter if you don't have the correct mindset. We all get bad or toxic teammates, so what? You move on and make the best of it.

Generally i always give my mid blue and my botlane red if they're doing good. Key phrase "if they're doing good" It's actually laughable how often that happens in bronze. EDIT: My coach is actually a former booster, so i dont feel like giving out his info.

Communist ToastAug 21, 20161 votes

pushing a lane to tower and then getting upset that you got ganked and your jungle wasn't there to counter gank is a pretty lame excuse tbh.

colesyAug 21, 20161 votes

no, you don't owe your laners ganks. but if you don't apply map pressure, the game is basically a 4v5 and you'll lose.

so l2p and stop blaming your team mates for you sucking.

Lmao Get MoonedAug 21, 20161 votes

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no, you don't owe your laners ganks. but if you don't apply map pressure, the game is basically a 4v5 and you'll lose.

so l2p and stop blaming your team mates for you sucking.

I'll lose? Really? That must be why i have a 74% winrate as Volibear jungle playing exactly as i described.

colesyAug 21, 20161 votes

i dont even get why you'd make a qq thread if you were winning so many games?

"i've found a way to win 74% of my games, i think i'll now bitch about my team on the league boards"

????????

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