How come Heimerdinger is never played in high level tournaments like LCS?

Yuumi or Lose··3 votes·3,434 views

Because his kit doesn't work in high level play and is easily countered. Heimerdinger is a straight up solo q champ and excels in laning phase. After laning phase, he does.... Nothing.

Yeah he is annoying to play against and that's it. Even if you're a melee top, just build magic resist and you win. And his push is so exploitable. Heimer even loses to jungle ganks severely. Only lower level play does he look dangerous.

But the worst part is his late game. His poke is bad, his CD on his spells is too high, easily avoidable team fights when he puts down his paper turrets that die in one hit late game, turrets do not have scaling armor and magic resist and is also smiteable, his spells are easy to dodge with high mana cost, unlike other champions he falls super behind when he loses to lane as other champions can easily come back.

This guy needs buffs in the long run.

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rumples2 votes

Heimer shouldnt be buffed because he's annoying

youngjake932 votes

Honestly, most of your analysis is exaggerated. Ever since the range of smite was nerfed, with longer cooldowns and incentives to use on champs/monsters, it is harder to just save your smite for his turrets. He can just build Void Staff against MR. The MR items are mainly built to counter burst, so his DPS still does fine vs it. His spells are hard to aim if you are new to him, but if you are experienced the projectile speeds aren't very slow so they aren't that easy to dodge. His mana costs are slightly better than average for mages, maybe similar to Ahri to where you don't even need an actual mana item. Heimer is also the most threatening champion to gank... He can 1v2 easily with his high AOE dps and CC.

His only real weakness is that he is only good in his zone of control. No pro is going to fight a Heimer on his terms and Heimer is only good at fights that are on his terms. But that doesn't mean he is useless outside of it though. His ult rockets do something like 1600 dmg+220% AP which is going to do 90+% to most ADCs which means they are dead if you also throw the grenade at them. His ult grenades have something like a 2000 initiation range. But none of that really works if the enemy just leaves whenever you want to kill them.

I'll take buffs though =] I haven't played Heimer in a while and he used to be my main.

Yuumi or Lose1 votes

But you're only silver. That's the thing. You don't understand that Heimers mechanics at pro level isn't up to par. He is easily counterable. There are only a very few Heimer mains at diamond and even they struggle because they are basically handicapping themselves trying to keep heimer at a decent winrate. People at high elo can counter Heim despite what champs they play. In low elo, they think Heimer is OP because they don't know better. It's like saying Ohmwrecker is OP because Sirhcez and Trick2g uses them, but even they admit that it is a very bad item.

youngjake931 votes

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But you're only silver. That's the thing. You don't understand that Heimers mechanics at pro level isn't up to par. He is easily counterable. There are only a very few Heimer mains at diamond and even they struggle because they are basically handicapping themselves trying to keep heimer at a decent winrate. People at high elo can counter Heim despite what champs they play. In low elo, they think Heimer is OP because they don't know better. It's like saying Ohmwrecker is OP because Sirhcez and Trick2g uses them, but even they admit that it is a very bad item.

I mean he has a consistent top 10 win rate in diamond and a decent 2% play rate right next to Mundo who sees competitive play with a much lower diamond win rate. Just because I'm silver doesn't mean I don't know what I'm talking about lol. Heimer is strong. Honestly, I wouldn't be toooo surprised if someone eventually picked him up with the lane swap meta in the LCS since he is probably the best 1v2 laner unless against something like a Caitlyn. People pick up Kennen a lot now for teamfight power and 1v2 potential.

However, Heimer is a much riskier+matchup reliant pick and most pros are risk averse for good reason.

You are really underselling him. Yes, he would need buffs or his competition nerfed to bring him to top of the meta like an Ahri or Graves, but he is already well above average.

Arcade Andrew1 votes

Actually the real reason they dont play him is because he cant make LC$bigplays

hes pretty strong (pusherdinger ftw) everytime ive played him i just put my three turrets in the middle of the lane to avoid ganks and constatly use my ult and place it under enemy turret just to keep him from farming and getting exp but he is boring to play

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