I'm wondering if Riot is planning something for mages/AP champions soon

Big Lincoln··7 votes·460 views

Looking at the Mundo changes on PBE got me thinking about how many counters to mages and magic damage threats we've gotten recently.

You have the Galio rework, who is meant to be a strong counterpick to AP threats

And Maokai who thrives in fights against spammy champions, a lot of whom are mages

There's item 3194 which is being buffed again, it's a counter purchase to DoTs and spammy mages

And now we have DrMundo , a juggernaut who gives himself as much as 30% extra MR for taking magic damage, and his W now deals magic damage to himself, which basically becomes a permanent MR buff late game. He may become THE hard counter to mages while being a considerable damage threat himself

All of these changes meant to counter magic threats was a little confusing at first, because heavy-AP comps haven't really been a thing for a while now due to the raw effectiveness AD champions have, and the fact that 90% of the fighter roster has armor shred built into their kit. Maybe this is just a preemptive measure before Riot decides to tinker with APs again? Maybe they want to see the return of magic-heavy teams?

just a thought, maybe I'm looking into it too much

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MrHaZeYo3 votes

I hope so.

#makemagesgreatagain

Big Lincoln1 votes

death 2 mages

but some teamcomp variety would be pretty neat-o

MrHaZeYo1 votes

Ya I hear ya

LostFr0st2 votes

Pretty sure they're just trying to cut through and differentiate the mush of S2 and S3 bruiser/tank champs.

Those three were always above-average into mages though, I'm glad they've decided to sharpen that tbh.

Big Lincoln3 votes

yeah, maybe. They seem to encroach on hard counter territory now, though. these guys don't fuck around anymore. i'm still not really fond of new galio, i don't feel like he fits an anti-mage identity very well.

like i said, i only have a suspicion. it'd be nice if it were true though; riot figuring out a way to make AP comps good again like they were a long time ago, without pushing every other option out

LostFr0st1 votes

I'm kinda touchy about new Galio tbh. I played the old one a decent amount and I get what they were going for but yeah, I don't see the "anti-mage" either really.

I joined league during an AP heavy swing during S4. Can also vouch it was super fun. However, this season has been the best so far for me. Last season can suck a pineapple though.

These gameplay updates lately are something else. They make me super excited for every patch <3

Big Lincoln3 votes

galio feels more anti-diver than anything. his whole kit just fucks diving champs so hard. maybe if he had a mechanic besides MR scaling that let him punish mages somehow

still hoping we get a pugna copycat

MaropaL21 votes

Tank & Carry hit them down = Veigars Ultimate based on Missing Health = Brand's Ultimate that rips through everyone and is a huge explosion = Teemo who waits somewhere and lets his shroom bounce of another shroom into the fight = Annie's Ultimate+E who work like Tank with Sunfire Cape

For Example as Team: Jax initiates the Fight by jumping with his E and ultimate Sejuani Ultimate which stuns and slows by 80% in a huge Aoe Fiddlesticks who silences all Enemies Hit also his Ulti which deals a good Aoe Miss Fortune who rips through everyone with her Ultimate

Last one would either be Soraka (Aoe Silence wins every teamfight) or Anivia (Walls of the escape and throws her massiv Aoe Slow Ultimate)

Jax would Trigger Sejuani's Frost E (which has no cooldown and stuns them for up to 2sec)

Kloqdq1 votes

Mages have been in a bit of a mess since the rework in my mind. They are still strong but some outshine others far to much. Not to mention that itemization is a little heavy handed with some stuff like item 3165 being the like 90% best starting item for the vast majority of mages, or the lack of actual itemization, and real choice. item 3089 for example feels weaker than it should as the prime late game, scaling item. I really hate the actual need for this item as well item 3802.

I doubt we'll see any changes for a while however. I hope that the next major set of work is those but I doubt it.

PrinceOfStorms1 votes

Just add in more magic pen items, just like how there's 3 lethality items- Edge of Night, Duskblade, Ghostblade- there should be 3 flat magic pen items: Liandry, Sorcs + New Item

Maybe put 15 flat mpen on Zhonyas so that it's a true analogue to Edge of Night? Or make a mpen item that builds out of QSS.

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