Nerf AP Gragas. Please.

koshkyra··1 votes·558 views

I have laned against AP Gragas mid four times in my entire league life and its gone the same way everytime.

Level 1: spams his undodgeable barrels at me for 95+ a piece

Level 3: Es into me (and dodging a gragas E isnt even possible) for 100+ damage and a ridiculous stun, does 150+ damage with a single AA, barrels me for 100+, then walks away with 0 health traded while im left at below 30%

Level 4: E+flashes (again, undodgeable), does like 180 damage with an AA, if i somehow dont die: he does a barrel for 150+ damage, and if i somehow manage to survive that (barrier, heal, etc) he ignites me and this time i DEFINENTLY died.

Then i play back at my tower so he cant get to me

He hits level 6: uses his literal instant ultimate for 200+ damage, suddenly im smack dab in the middle of the lane, then he does a full rotation and kills me from full health (usually without ignite)

I just laned against one who had this build item 3057 item 1001 item 1027 item 3145 and was level 7

I was a taliyah with barrier. But f the "barrier" part, guess what, he killed me before i could even react and use it.

You dont have to nerf tank gragas, but please nerf AP gragas.

I have never felt more hopeless in a lane than when i have to do it against ap gragas.

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No surrender1 votes

Vladimir

koshkyra1 votes

Not even starting on vladmir rn

Wet Dryman1 votes

Gragas Q is dodgeable especially if you're ranged laner, it's basically much slower Lux E. You can deny his E with your displacement, you can play around minions so he won't hit you while you'll be zoning him. R isn't instant since Season 6, it has 0.55 second delay that's more than enough for you to outplay that by moving away/flashing/dashing/moving to the position where it will displace you somewhere safe. It seems like you have ridiculously bad reaction time and suck at punishing burst oriented champions (yeah Gragas makes it hard due to all that CC but he is exploitable while he wants to farm or if he dumped his spells, they are on long cooldowns during early game).

Gragas could use damage/cc nerfs, I agree but judging from your post half of the actual problem was with how bad you're playing.

EDIT: I see that you didn't even buy boots ^^ You literally had problems with dodging his shit and instead of making it easier for you by gaining extra movement speed you decided to further handicap yourself.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

You're obviously not a Season 3 veteran.

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