Veigar infinite AP scaling mechanic with a point and click execute is too much
If he can scale infinitely on AP through just farming, that ult should not be a missing health ult.
No way to counterbuild this stupid champ. Hexdrinker doesnt work.
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Agreed. People will say you can beat Veigar. They'll say just wait out his stun and jump on him. They're not wrong. But being able to kill a champion doesn't mean they're not imbalanced.
Veigar does not have infinate scaling. At 1k ap hes gonna one shot something anyways.
His missing hp execute is supposed to prevent him from just pressing r on a squishy. He needs to land at least one ability to kill his target. Thats why its an execute.
boohoo a burst mage who cant do anything for the first half of the game and when you let him scale he oneshots me like any other midlainer in the game :(
What's broken with Veigar is the cooldown mechanic on Dark Matter based on stacks.
COOLDOWN: 8 − #0 (BASED ON Phenomenal Evil Power STACKS) (400 stacks = 3.44 second cooldown)
He becomes a 1 shot machine gun after stacks are built. It's okay if he gets off and kills 1-2 people, but he needs a pause in which for people to kill him.
complaining about the wrong part of veigar.
His nukes can be played around with shields, zhonyas, banshees, or just not being in range (his R is 650, which is pitiful for a mage late game). A scaling mage doing damage Isn’t an issue.
It’s his control cage that’s the bigger issue because it makes initiates harder to follow up on, and getting stunned removes the stasis bait play and Riot buffed it to be up even more frequently.
isn't even close to the biggest problems in midlane. He's 47th overall win rate on Diamond+ @49.10%.
https://na.op.gg/champion/statistics
Moreover it is very difficult for him to have an impact on the game until the mid-late game. Now him with 200-300 stacks and two items? Yeah he's going to melt people, but this is really no different than most midlaners.
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Well, one of his defining things was the AP stacking. If other champs can stack infinitely (nasus, sion) not a big deal that he can stack ap without items.
But, the missing health ult is just too strong. Way too much execute in this game as it is, and his is point and click and ranged.
Why not move veigar back to the anti-mage he was?
I don't like the game balance right now where certain champ 'types' counter others rather than specific champions being counters to other ones.
Pretty much all burst mages with low mobility need to heavily outplay or lose to assassins/yasuo the way it is. Why not bring back the veigar ult that scales with enemy AP? Would be a nice counter to the dianas and ekkos and leblancs running around.
yes and no, his fantasy doesn't work if it isn't point and click, it is however unhealthy.
I think his passive should just stack extra mana instead or something. Stackable non-item AP in these times is just a bad thing waiting to happen. Vlad could use a nerf to his AP to health ratio so he doesnt get uber tanky once ahead or late game.