@title the on impact hit plus bonus damage ticks + thunderlord proc is a bit over whelming walking in allows him to use the other half of his unused rotation the mana cost is like nothing at all he can spam the Q for days its honestly broken in lane phase.
EDIT: I KNOW he has an actual mana cost for Q im just stating it needs an actual appropriate cost.
Ralanr2 votesIt's getting less damage on the PBE.
Very Hard Engage1 votestank galio suffers, losing % health damage. 0 AP builds.
but AP galio is getting buffed by an extra 15%.
Galio Colossal Smash (Passive) damage lowered from 15-100 to 12-80.
Winds of War (Q) : AP ratio increased from 60% to 75% Combined tornado damage lowered from 9% to 6% of enemies Maximum health.
basically any AP build is instantly better.
and the 3% difference 162(9%) vs 108(6%) damage assuming an 1800 hp champ. (carries)
but the added 15% scaling means anyone over 64AP or more gets a net damage buff against carries.
against tanks with say... 4000hp 360 bonus now 240 ( 120 damage lost) will now need 141AP or more to deal the difference.
soooo..... galios getting buffed? not nerfed?
i mean any galio with just a RoA and 100AP will see no change, and if theres an abyssal involved and then rest tank, you'll actually see a damage increase.
Ralanr1 votesIt means that Galio will rely more on AP if he wants to hurt people after laning I guess.
So better for AP Galio.
Very Hard Engage1 votesi mean 6 item full tank galio usually includes roa... (at the least)
Ralanr1 votesYou're point? By your observations, a more AP built Galio will do better damage now.
Very Hard Engage1 voteswhats your galio build thats full tank?
IBG - > treds/tabis -> sunfire -> spirit visage ? and then fill?
10/10 galios i see building roa every time first.
Ralanr1 votesI'm saying more AP heavy Galio's will do more damage. I know Galio has at least one AP item in his tank build.
Very Hard Engage1 votesmeaning there wont be any damage loss at all even for tank galio.
his passive is whats getting nerfed. (ever so slightly)
Ralanr1 votesand the 3% difference 162(9%) vs 108(6%) damage assuming an 1800 hp champ. (carries)
Losing 52 damage seems to be a loss.
Very Hard Engage1 votesRalanr1 votesOk now I'm seeing it.
Asayake 5150glow1 votestank galio suffers, losing % health damage. 0 AP builds.
but AP galio is getting buffed by an extra 15%.
Galio Colossal Smash (Passive) damage lowered from 15-100 to 12-80.
Winds of War (Q) : AP ratio increased from 60% to 75% Combined tornado damage lowered from 9% to 6% of enemies Maximum health.
basically any AP build is instantly better.
and the 3% difference 162(9%) vs 108(6%) damage assuming an 1800 hp champ. (carries)
but the added 15% scaling means anyone over 64AP or more gets a net damage buff against carries.
against tanks with say... 4000hp 360 bonus now 240 ( 120 damage lost) will now need 141AP or more to deal the difference.
soooo..... galios getting buffed? not nerfed?
i mean any galio with just a RoA and 100AP will see no change, and if theres an abyssal involved and then rest tank, you'll actually see a damage increase.
Wth?????
Why are they giving a tank a 115% AP ratio...
Why does a tank have such good AP ratios in the first place... it's not even tied to long cooldowns...
His Q needs a bigger cooldown, tbh. What always happens is that you dodge the first Q, you go in, the E hits you because of huge hitboxes and because you're going in, he taunts you, and then he throws another Q and you either run and massively lose the trade since you already ate most of his damage, and also eat at least 2 Q AoE procs, or you continue to fight and get hit by all 3 Q procs.
Taliyah Rocks2 votespre-rework Galio could already shove waves even quicker... stop crying. He did have more trouble with his mana, but that wasn't a problem when all he was doing was cast two spells per wave.
Darth Sidiouss1 votesidc about him shoving waves its just the damage and spam
Asayake 5150glow1 votes[{quoted}](name=Dry Your Tears,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1dybmViA,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2017-03-31T18:59:17.696+0000)
idc about him shoving waves its just the damage and spam
The cooldown is the real problem (and the 300 damage no matter how far behind he is because it's almost impossible to avoid at least some of the DPS if you don't burn a dash or if he misses it badly). What always happens to me is that I dodge the first one, but by the time I go in (couple seconds later, gotta walk backwards to dodge the Q) or because he's tanky, while I'm autoing him, he just E's (hits because of huge hitbox) and throws down another Q for the full 400+ damage.
Handy Sandy 1 votesand his waveclear is just too much, he's a tank that can shove in a midlaner that should not happen
Mizuki Zahra2 voteshes an anti mage so yes he can shove mages but he loses to talon and zed
Handy Sandy 1 voteshes an anti mage so yes he can shove mages but he loses to talon and zed
Tanks who build armor and still manage to kill squishy champions do not lose to assassins.
Ralanr1 votesAlmost like being squishy means you die easy.
Handy Sandy 1 votesAlmost like being squishy means you die easy.
into tank items
Ralanr1 votes[{quoted}](name=Chroma Spell,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1dybmViA,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2017-03-31T19:30:45.917+0000)
... So you're only making my point stronger here.
Mizuki Zahra1 votesif he builds armor then he doesn't deal as much damage as he would if he build mr since some of his abilities scale with mr, thus galio has a choice go damage or survive and with lethality out there he would also need to build hp. I have seen a lot of people take galio down with ad assassins in mid and top lane in all tiers
Ralanr2 votesSion has good waveclear. As does Nautilus and Poppy.
Tanks can shove lanes.
Handy Sandy 1 votesSion has good waveclear. As does Nautilus and Poppy.
Tanks can shove lanes.
They don't oneshot waves at level 1.
Ralanr1 votesI play Galio with AP runes. I'm not one shotting waves with my Q at level one.
Mizuki Zahra1 votes2 shot the q and passive maybe idk I usually poke poke poke lol
Ralanr1 votesWell that ain't a one shot.
Mizuki Zahra1 votesI didn't say it was lol
Big Lincoln1 votesit has a mana cost
Darth Sidiouss1 votesits very low
BeatzBoyFTW3 votes70-90 mana isn't considered low at all.