Opinion: There is nothing interesting about new Evelynn apart from the "sex" theme

mirAcIe·5/20/2019, 10:37:30 AM·1 votes·1,665 views

Observe the statistics.

https://i.imgur.com/9pOQfLV.png

Source: League of Graphs.

After the VGU most uninformed people immediately started praising the tiddies on the splash art and some of them are still doing that. Yet, Evelynn is a boring champion and even fanservice can't force people play her more than old Evelynn.

So I ask you, Is there any other VGU that ended up lowering champion's popularity?

20 Comments

Dynikus5/20/2019, 10:56:16 AM8 votes

Opinion: you don't know how to interpret statistics.

Ephixus5/20/2019, 10:59:41 AM4 votes

Because old evelynn was invisible one shot abomination, without zero reactive counter play. Ppl always been like this ABUSE what is broken,bugged, etc.

Myrmiron5/20/2019, 10:53:04 AM4 votes

"New Eve" dude, Evelynn had like 50 remakes before that one. She has already been a thematically fitting and decent to play champion since mid Season 2.

Dorans Pants5/20/2019, 10:58:59 AM2 votes

Theme is probably one of the last things I would attribute to a champs playrate.

Illabethe5/20/2019, 2:42:23 PM1 votes

New Eve is extremely team dependent, especially if you are running DH or Electrocute. Her rework, imo, always made her more niche.

You could tell this in season 7 end, when for the last month or so, she wasn't even viable enough to live at Baron, and barely lived at drakes (Old runes had no way for her to sustain, and her itemization had no in combat sustain)

She's just not self-mobile enough to be a popular jungler. By Self mobile..... I mean..... her only mobility is built into attacking things with E.

They also gated her spammability, and gave windows where she literally can't do anything in a fight. 3-4 seconds of doing nothing is a big deterrent as a pick.

Another problem: People have shifted from independent thought on building a champ, to hive mentality. Phase Rush actually makes her far more interactive than either Electrocute or DH, gives her far better survivability, stalking pursuit, yet people zerg Electrocute/DH all the same, because it's early game, secures more kills, etc. BUT IT DOESN'T ENCOURAGE TEAM PLAY.

Keep in mind the reason people chose ugly Evelynn was because she was two very different champs: Spell caster assassin, and a Brawler. I almost exclusivly played her AD pre rework. item 3078 item 3074 item 1412 item 3146 item 3087 was far nastier than going AP. You could ignore her entire stealth premise, and brawl the game away as a direct up front engager. R First = No escape.

Rework gave opponent plenty of escape.

The23rdGamer5/21/2019, 4:13:11 AM1 votes

I would argue that meta shifts as far as a general gameplay sense would be more reasonable to attribute to Evelynn's lower play rate than her rework.

Especially since, for a fair while now, we've been sitting on a meta where level 2 junglers were highly valued so that they could content the rift scuttler when it spawned, and Evelynn certainly is not one of those champions.

Near the end of the graph you posted, Evelynn's play rate is rising. This is consistent with the partial repeal to the level two scuttler fights that recently happened.

(This does not mean her rework had no effect on her play rate, but calling it the primary / only factor is misleading).

harubun5/20/2019, 11:03:45 AM1 votes

Personally I like Eve's personality and the fact that she's basically a guro demon and not just the regular succubus type char. Not really her sex appeal. Her gameplay is fun but not really my thing since I main support.

mirAcIe5/20/2019, 11:42:08 AM1 votes

It's cute how you guys are pretending like Evelynn has to use her W to oneshot once she got her first item. W is a warning about getting hard CC'd, something old Eve didn't even have. She can still oneshot out of stealth withoug having to cc you.

And you don't see anything wrong with that? Yikes. If a champion works in multiple roles/playstyles, then something isn't right, unless it was made specifically with that in mind.

I see you only like doing what you're told. Big yikes. We just had creativity win a major international championship. Don't tell G2 you're not allowed to take Pyke top. Boring players lose. Thank god you're unaware of other champions that don't have to build the same items every game or you might want to delete them as well.

Finally, because I hate when people lie, Evelynn's popularity (pick rate + ban rate) didn't change all that much. She's picked less, but banned more. Zero sum system.

Sorted by Iron. You had one job. Now start hating yourself for lying. I posted a screenshot from the same website, except I didn't sort by Iron. Also getting picked less, but getting banned more means even worse. Why would you ban something that is not even picked that often? Only because it's cancer and unfun to play against.

BrokenRayquaza5/20/2019, 12:15:44 PM1 votes

Old Eve was just a cheese monster that could oneshot late game. New Eve is not nearly as linear. At least new Eve once she blows her combo she doesn't have anything left to use. Old Eve could just keep q'ing