@Riot Evelynn's Visual Update Should Be Based On Her Current Splash

mirAcIe·Jan 13, 2017·54 votes·5,358 views

Okay, so with Yorick and Warwick's VGUs out of the way there is only Galio left before Riot moves on to Evelynn... right? With this year being the year of achieveing long term goals I think it is possible that we will finally see long awaited Evelynn VGU.

Speaking of that I would like to revive a discussion that I started 9 months ago regarding Evelynn's updated splash art.

I think we all should take a look at how overwhelming the reaction to the new splash is. Let's face It, this new splash is awesome. It looks practically the same as old Evelynn you know and love hate, but at the same time it solves all the existing problems she has. She's attractive, she actually wears some clothing, spikes on her leggings look like something she can actually use now and this art shows a lot more character. She also has this cool neck-chest armor-like thingy. And overall she looks very new and shiny while still being 100% recognizable as the same Evelynn from the League of Legends beta.

Please do not make it go to waste!

TL;DR New splash fixes all Evelynn's problems and it should be her VU.

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cqp4Kwkuyds/Vw6QJOvIo7I/AAAAAAAA500/Tkwtl57Ek_QxEetrHOvKa8_CK05ips1rQCLcB/s1600/Evelynn_Splash_0.jpg

Old thread: http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/story-art/tdAoqop5-new-splash-should-be-evelynns-visual-update

109 Comments

Chase Me DaddyJan 13, 20179 votes

Current plans are that the Urgod himself is pushed after Galio and they said on stream that they are happy with the direction they found for him. I guess Evelynn will be after him. I'm certain there will be a lot more changes. The problem is that we don't know what Evelynn even is. Maybe she's some weird hybrid of a normal human and demon? Maybe she's actually a spirit and will be changed to a blue/green color scheme like the other ones? Only riot knows what she might be. I mean looking at the current shadow isles champions she is just a bit out of place. Changes will be needed in order to make her blend in more, just how Warwick is not just some werewolf but a augmented chemtech chimera to make him seem more Zaun like while also making him stand out more from werewolves in other franchises.

mirAcIeJan 13, 20176 votes

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Current plans are that the Urgod himself is pushed after Galio and they said on stream that they are happy with the direction they found for him. I guess Evelynn will be after him. I'm certain there will be a lot more changes. The problem is that we don't know what Evelynn even is. Maybe she's some weird hybrid of a normal human and demon? Maybe she's actually a spirit and will be changed to a blue/green color scheme like the other ones? Only riot knows what she might be. I mean looking at the current shadow isles champions she is just a bit out of place. Changes will be needed in order to make her blend in more, just how Warwick is not just some werewolf but a augmented chemtech chimera to make him seem more Zaun like while also making him stand out more from werewolves in other franchises.

Well, from what I undestand they try make Evelynn's character out of what was already known about her (judging by the short story they made for the Harrowing this year)

I hope they are going to turn all the maybes from her previous bio into facts. She doesn't have to be a super generic archetype, like succubus.

If her lore stops suggesting things about her and just makes them facts, you can easily sort out that she is:

An Assassin;
An expensive one;
A savage killer;
Has an ability to go invisible that is tied with shadows;
Has a unique appearance - blue skin, Elvish ears - which comes from some kind of magical powers that were given to her long time ago;
Likes to dress sexy;
Wears heels;
Makes fun of her victims.

So if you wanted to go with something, start with the first - she is an assassin.

How does she do her job? She uses her stealth ability that comes from her dark magical powers that also explain her appearance and overal attitude.

How does she do the killing? From the looks of it she can summon spikes and she also uses her bare hands albeit empowered by her dark magic. And upon using her ultimate she laughs sadistically, which implies that she's heavily into the process.

I mean, this is all basic stuff, but it already gives most players the answer to who she is.

Oh, and judging by that short story from Harrowing there is still mystery about Evelynn - she is after something, but it isn't money or anything obvious that others might want. Which is intriguing too, so I hope they develop this story.

GreenLoreJan 13, 20175 votes

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If her lore stops suggesting things about her and just makes them facts, you can easily sort out that she is:

The thing is that none of these things are really that unique.

An Assassin;

Like Talon Katarina Jhin Shaco ,heck you could even see Kalista as one

An expensive one;

Well we don't know what she really wants from you,it sounded more like it might be your soul or something like that,which is kinda similar to Kalista again

A savage killer;

Like most other evil champs.

Has an ability to go invisible that is tied with shadows;

I think invisibility might be the most unique thing about her.Most other invisible/camouflage-abilities seem to equal stealth within the lore rather than actual invisibility. But we can't be sure about champs like Shaco or Khazix and their invisibility.(sure they aren't really shadow related,but what does it matter how the invisibility is done?)

Has a unique appearance - blue skin, Elvish ears - which comes from some kind of magical powers that were given to her long time ago;

Blue skin? Ryze Elvish ears? Janna

Likes to dress sexy;

Uhm Ahri Cassiopeia Elise Janna Katarina Leblanc MissFortune Syndra Zyra

Wears heels;

Well Zyra has thorn-heels

Makes fun of her victims.

Shaco

So pretty much everything about eve is already covered by other champs and honestly some of these aspects aren't even that outstanding. I mean just because she is blue doesn't make her special.

So overall I'd say that it would be ok if they added some other archetype to her(like the succubus that you mentioned,though there are likely other options as well). I mean it doesn't have to replace all the things you listed about her,but could simply add to that.

MuffledGarbageJan 13, 20178 votes

I mean just because she is blue doesn't make her special.

I'M BLUE AB A DEE AB A DIE AB A DEE

I'm BLUE AB AB A DEE AB ADIE....

well

Evelynn is blue but you get the Idea

mirAcIeJan 13, 20175 votes

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snip

Interestingly enough Evelynn had all these features in her lore (albeit in a form of suggestions) before most of the champions you listed even came out.

As a long time Eve player I have a certain stance on this whole VGU debacle, which is to carefully develop her character from the things we already do have, instead of tearing her down and using her as a canvas for something completely new - this can happen on its own without having to sacrifice one of the original and the most unique champions in the game.

So in my previous post I tried to show that we have a plenty of info on her to start working with. I did not mean that it should end there, but rather that we have a clear starting point contrary to what is somehow agreed to believe by most people.

What Riot can easily expand on is the source of her mystic "vampiric" powers - which is 100% consistent with her original lore AND can potentially add a lot to her character.

TheySeeMeWardinJan 13, 20172 votes

This may just be because Janna's lore just came out and she's all I'm thinking about but because Eve does have similar characteristics like Janna and her power source is unknown maybe she could be a corrupted spirit. Feel free to disagree because it's just an idea but just like Janna she has the ability to materialize and dematerialize with her element (Janna being air and Eve being shadow). Idk why a spirit would need money or maybe that's her form of worship but it's just a thought.

OleandervineJan 13, 20175 votes

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This may just be because Janna's lore just came out and she's all I'm thinking about but because Eve does have similar characteristics like Janna and her power source is unknown maybe she could be a corrupted spirit. Feel free to disagree because it's just an idea but just like Janna she has the ability to materialize and dematerialize with her element (Janna being air and Eve being shadow). Idk why a spirit would need money or maybe that's her form of worship but it's just a thought.

It is never implied anywhere that Evelynn takes money for her services - in fact, in her mini story, she scoffs at Baron Takeda when he offers to pay her in money. I could dig making Evelynn a spirit/demigoddess that was corrupted by the Black Mists. It makes a weird amount of sense too, considering that notoriety, reputation, and fear-verging-on-reverence can achieve the same sort of belief and worship that Janna's sailors and patrons express towards her.

GreenLoreJan 14, 20171 votes

You say,she is one of the most unique champions in the game,but I ask you: What does make her unique? Like I pointed out in the post above,there isn't really an aspect about Eve that stands out and makes her unique. Pretty much the only unique thing about her are the combination of these aspects and arguably her design(though she isn't even the only sexy redhead from the shadow isles Elise )

But why would you have a champion who only combines other elements,when you could have one that brings something entirely new?

And honestly,you don't even need to really change the existing stuff so much for it. I mean you mentioned how you don't want Eve to change into a succubus and I don't think that Eve being a succubus would even change that much. Sure her design could change a bit to reflect that,but other than that,they could leave her like she is. Heck vampire is something that you suggest,that would pretty much fit her as well and would make her unique too(as Vlad isn't a real vampire) So just because something new gets added,doesn't mean that the old things have to go;).

mirAcIeJan 14, 20171 votes

Yes, when I said she was one of the most unique champions I meant it from the gameplay standpoint.

And speaking of how these new ideas would not change anything.... I mean, having somewhat vampiric powers is one thing, like vampires pretty much look like humans, but succubus is something that looks completely different at least from my understanding. Like, I look at Eve and I see that she is a human, albeit not a regular one, but she's not a demon creature or something.

And we had her date TF and co-found a dancing school in Runeterra, so it was implied that she is capable of communicating with people like a regular person, too. The whole mystical part was mostly about her origins and her goals, but it was never implied that she's something completely out of this world, like a succubus.

GreenLoreJan 14, 20171 votes

Well gameplay doesn't have to loose its unique aspects regardless of how her theme changes(the permastealth is pretty much guaranteed to stay)

And honestly,Riot likes to add their unique twists to certain character types,so her becoming a succubus wouldn't mean that she automatically becomes something out of this world(the way Takeda hired her,makes it clear that she isn't some spirit that you summon)

Though I kinda doubt that the whole dancing-school thing will remain canon,considering that TF doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who would make one(though he is still listed as someone who has a connection to her,so it is possible that him being her ex-lover will remain canon)

OleandervineJan 16, 20171 votes

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Well gameplay doesn't have to loose its unique aspects regardless of how her theme changes(the permastealth is pretty much guaranteed to stay)

And honestly,Riot likes to add their unique twists to certain character types,so her becoming a succubus wouldn't mean that she automatically becomes something out of this world(the way Takeda hired her,makes it clear that she isn't some spirit that you summon)

Though I kinda doubt that the whole dancing-school thing will remain canon,considering that TF doesn't seem to be the kind of guy who would make one(though he is still listed as someone who has a connection to her,so it is possible that him being her ex-lover will remain canon)

Evelynn's permastealth is probably the first thing to go when she gets her inevitable VGU. Meddler has stated in the past that Evelynn's permanent stealth consumes so much of her kit's power that she can't be allowed to be a bursty assassin like they had originally intended, because she becomes absolutely game breaking if she can burst you out of stealth. This was what was wrong with the original Evelynn years and years ago that caused her first rework that switched her closer to a sustained damage/tankish assassin, which completely breaks her thematic. The odds of them repeating that mistake in a modern VGU are probably close to 0%. I would expect some kind of prolonged stealth like Rengar got in the assassin update, or a blinking stealth like Vayne or Kha'Zix, but I'm pretty certain the permastealth is counting down to it's own demise.

GreenLoreJan 31, 20171 votes

Welp,guess I was right about the permastealth

We think PermaStealth is a cool and unique trait, so we don’t plan on removing it but we do think there is a healthier version of it that will allow us to shift power elsewhere in Evelynn’s kit.

ElikainJan 13, 20171 votes

If her lore stops suggesting things about her and just makes them facts, you can easily sort out that she is:

An Assassin;
An expensive one; So if you wanted to go with something, start with the first - she is an assassin.

How does she do her job? How does she do the killing?

I think Riot has said that they want to move Evelynn away from the "assassin for hire" archetype. As you've already read from Evelynn's color text story, Evelynn doesn't want money. She wants something else as her payment and those payments are ones among many, for a simple kill that Zaunite chem-baron wanted.

Talon, Katarina are already assassins who could do their job for Noxus. Both of them take took orders from the head of du Coteau family, Katarina and Cassiopeia's father. Camille is also an assassin, working for for the benefit of her own family that she is now the head of. Sivir used to be a bandit for hire, leading expeditions to Shurima's underground hidden temples in search of treasures.

Eve's story also references Camille as Gray Lady, but that was just a story hook, to connect her in some way to some way to the League Universe.

A savage killer

Now, she's a "natural" predator more than a killer. Given how they described her ability to simply meld with the shadows, cat eyes, skin tone, figure, poise, talons, glowing eyes... leads me to believe that she only "stalks" her prey when she needs to sate her hunger for something. She just doesn't appear to be going on killing sprees just because she can.

##In my opinion, "assassin for hire" archetype for such an able predator like her (probably originating from the Shadow Isles) is just a waste, if her only motivation is payment - regardless of what that might be.

mirAcIeJan 13, 20171 votes

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An Assassin;

An expensive one; So if you wanted to go with something, start with the first - she is an assassin.

I think Riot has said that they want to move Evelynn away from the "assassin for hire" archetype. As you've already read from Evelynn's color text story, Evelynn doesn't want money. She wants something else as her payment and those payments are ones among many, for a simple kill that Zaunite chem-baron wanted.

Talon, Katarina are already assassins who could be more or less considered "for hire" but they do their job for Noxus. Both of them take took orders from the head of du Coteau family, Katarina and Cassiopeia's father. Camille is also an assassin, working for for the benefit of her own family that she is now the head of. Sivir used to be a bandit for hire, leading expeditions to Shurima's underground hidden temples in search of treasures.

Eve's story also references Camille as Gray Lady, but that was just a story hook, to connect her in some way to some way to the League Universe.

Now, she's a "natural" predator more than a killer. Given how they described her ability to simply meld with the shadows, cat eyes, skin tone, figure, poise, talons, glowing eyes... leads me to believe that she only "stalks" her prey when she needs to sate her hunger for something. She just doesn't appear to be going on killing sprees just because she can.

##In my opinion, "assassin for hire" archetype for such an able predator like her (probably originating from the Shadow Isles) is just a waste, if her only motivation is payment - regardless of what that might be.

Yeah, by "expensive" I meant that she would ask for something worth more than money. What exactly? Blood, soul? Who knows?

I do agree that she does have it in her to be a predator, but it was heavily implied everywhere that she is an assassin for hire with a catch - she pursues an unknown interest, so she does not do things to sate her hunger and doesn't go on rampages. It is clear to everyone that she follows a certain plan, but currently it is known only to her.

She's not an invisible predator, like Kha'Zix, she's an invisible plotter. The kind that looks blatantly evil on the outside, but can even become your ally if its in her interests, while pursuing her own unknown interest.

ElikainJan 13, 20171 votes

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I do agree that she does have it in her to be a predator, but it was heavily implied everywhere that she is an assassin for hire with a catch - she pursues an unknown interest, so she does not do things to sate her hunger and doesn't go on rampages. It is clear to everyone that she follows a certain plan, but currently it is known only to her.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/riot-games/editorial/note-shadows-beckon

#I found what Riot has said about Eve's lore :)

mirAcIeJan 13, 20171 votes

That's the most important part

For now, she’ll be doing what she does best: slipping into the shadows, waiting for the right time to reveal herself and a fully-fleshed story of her origins.

I REALLY hope the focus will be on her origins rather than making her a completely different character.

ElikainJan 13, 20172 votes

Well, not making her story about being an assassin for hire isn't taking away from her roots. I never fully bought that a person with her abilities was ever interested just killing people. It looked as a cheap way to explain her abilities. Someone with a knife can ability to kill can call themselves an assassin, why would someone beyond that ability do the same thing? She can be much, much more when we talk about her character. Besides, i wanted to find out more about how she was connected to the Shadow Isles and since this lore has already been expanded, i think Riot can weave her in pretty nicely.

I bet that there's a reason why she's taking out people for some sort of payment. As we both said, she isn't looking for money. But she expected payment and it was something that Saito Takeda could not afford. And Evelynn doesn't like her time to be wasted so she knew she's going to get whatever she wanted or the other party knew she's gonna make them regret that decision. So in some way, i think she is planning something but i don't know what.

6SfoolJan 13, 20178 votes

If Riot replaces this splash in her vgu, I will be disappointed. It's a great splash.

Insanity SongJan 15, 20172 votes

Agreed

Dat KatJan 13, 20176 votes

Meanwhile Morgana

LunSeiSleideeJan 13, 20175 votes

"I fap to this splash art of an Escher girl, so please Riot, update the model based on that splash art so I can fap to that as well."

mirAcIeJan 13, 201743 votes

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"I fap to this splash art of an Escher girl, so please Riot, update the model based on that splash art so I can fap to that as well."

"I am desperate for attention today"

WinTheWarOnPantsJan 13, 20172 votes

"I know he's right, but there's a ton of us that want another 'spankbank' champ and i know i'll get more upvotes..."

mirAcIeJan 13, 20171 votes

Actually, I care more about keeping the character that I've grown attached to while playing League for the last 5 years, rather than anything else and especially upvotes lol.

WinTheWarOnPantsJan 13, 20172 votes

I just really don't trust riot to do a good job or more specifically respect her character. The've had some good ones Sion Tristana but they've had WAY more horrible ones Malzahar Akali Syndra Skarner Darius Garen KogMaw Mordekaiser Caitlyn Fiora . they also had some half and half like Gangplank where his character and lore were amazing IMO, but gamplay was lack luster. or the rework that im afraid Eve will end up like Poppy where her gamplay is solid, but they literally just made an entirely new champion character wise.

WyrmbladeJan 14, 20171 votes

Darius, Gangplank and Caitlyn were good updates, they were just overtuned sometimes.

xelakerJan 14, 20172 votes

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Darius, updates, overtuned

you had a bunch of other words in there so I fixed it for you

[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

LùmenFeb 1, 20171 votes

Yeah GP's gameplay is lackluster. Sorry but your taste is a joke

LunSeiSleideeJan 13, 20172 votes

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"I am desperate for attention today"

I'm just saying.... halfnaked temptress whose only characteristic is having blue skin.

And yet someone thought it was such a good creative design it's worth preserving.

mirAcIeJan 13, 20172 votes

That can be said about any character of similar type. Clearly, a person who would say that doesn't bother going into detail or even care about the subject. I think she's worth preserving because she actually does have other traits other than just being a temptress which I brought up in this thread and it is worth preserving because Evelynn, as a champion, does have a fanbase and a very decent playrate, so she shouldn't be discarded, torn down, and remade.

Is it really that weird or hard to understand? If you had a favorite character in a fandom, you would be against deleting it and making something else out of it.

LunSeiSleideeJan 13, 20174 votes

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That can be said about any character of similar type. Clearly, a person who would say that doesn't bother going into detail or even care about the subject. I think she's worth preserving because she actually does have other traits other than just being a temptress which I brought up in this thread and it is worth preserving because Evelynn, as a champion, does have a fanbase and a very decent playrate, so she shouldn't be discarded, torn down, and remade.

Is it really that weird or hard to understand? If you had a favorite character in a fandom, you would be against deleting it and making something else out of it.

I have no issue with Evelynn remaining exactly as she looks now, when she is reworked. Not interested in her before, wouldn't be interested in her with her rework - whatever, there's so many champions I love that it doesn't matter.

The issue I have is calling her a good design or claiming she actually has any other quality besides generic femme fatale. You CAN like a cheap simple design of a stereotyped archetype, and there's nothing wrong with it. I like Garen and he's as stereotyped and simple as they get. But I wouldn't say Garen has a good interesting design.

ChaosThiefJan 13, 20176 votes

The thing is, that's part of her design, regardless of what you think. She's an assassin that uses generic female attractiveness to lure them to death. That's the general idea. Not every character needs to be unique or complicated, they just have to have the right idea from the start.

LunSeiSleideeJan 13, 20172 votes

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The thing is, that's part of her design, regardless of what you think. She's an assassin that uses generic female attractiveness to lure them to death. That's the general idea. Not every character needs to be unique or complicated, they just have to have the right idea from the start.

Well, I tend to prefer more original or complex champions, but you make a good point too.

HalfTangibleJan 14, 20172 votes

halfnaked temptress whose only characteristic is having blue skin.

Evelynn-is-a-cruel,-manipulative-woman-who-enjoys-toying-with-the-hearts-and-minds-of-those-she-encounters-for-the-sole-purpose-of-making-them-afraid/miserable/paranoid-(See-Twisted-Fate-in-the-Journal-of-Justice).-She's-quick,-clever,-and-revels-in-the-pain-of-others.-Her-recent-lore-update-also-showed-she-likes-showing-those-who-hire-her-that-she's-in-charge.

It's-not-exactly-complex-but-claiming-that-she's-as-one-note-as,-say,-Garen-is-just-silly.

And yet someone thought it was such a good creative design it's worth preserving.

This-may-come-as-a-shock-to-you,-but-"half-naked"-does-not-equal-"bad-design."

Moreover,-Eve-is-an-iconic-character-for-league.-Yes,-that-is-very-much-worth-preserving.

LunSeiSleideeJan 15, 20171 votes

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Evelynn-is-a-cruel,-manipulative-woman-who-enjoys-toying-with-the-hearts-and-minds-of-those-she-encounters-for-the-sole-purpose-of-making-them-afraid/miserable/paranoid-(See-Twisted-Fate-in-the-Journal-of-Justice).-She's-quick,-clever,-and-revels-in-the-pain-of-others.-Her-recent-lore-update-also-showed-she-likes-showing-those-who-hire-her-that-she's-in-charge.

It's-not-exactly-complex-but-claiming-that-she's-as-one-note-as,-say,-Garen-is-just-silly.

This-may-come-as-a-shock-to-you,-but-"half-naked"-does-not-equal-"bad-design."

Moreover,-Eve-is-an-iconic-character-for-league.-Yes,-that-is-very-much-worth-preserving.

This may come as a shock to you, but "halfnaked" is not the issue with Evelynn's design. It's "generic temptress with generic clothes" which is the problem.

Then again, some people have this fetish for the idea of women's sexuality as a treacherous, cruel (and very generic) thing. To each their own.

And please fix your spacebar, reading your posts hurts.

HalfTangibleJan 15, 20172 votes

This may come as a shock to you, but "halfnaked" is not the issue with Evelynn's design. It's "generic temptress with generic clothes" which is the problem.

That's not what you said.

halfnaked temptress whose only characteristic is having blue skin.

Recuerdas?

Then again, some people have this fetish for the idea of women's sexuality as a treacherous, cruel (and very generic) thing. To each their own.

sigh

And please fix your spacebar, reading your posts hurts.

Tried. Apparently they don't sell the part i broke so I had to just buy a new one.

LunSeiSleideeJan 15, 20171 votes

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That's not what you said.

Recuerdas?

Uhm.... you claim that's not what I said and then you proceed to quote exactly what I said. XD

Me: "This may come as a shock to you, but "halfnaked" is not the issue with Evelynn's design. It's "generic temptress with generic clothes" which is the problem."

Also me: "halfnaked temptress whose only characteristic is having blue skin. Then again, some people have this fetish for the idea of women's sexuality as a treacherous, cruel (and very generic) thing. To each their own."

See how I described exactly what I said - that Evelynn is a lame generic temptress archetype and has literally nothing else going for her.

By all means, keep her that way, because this game has so many cool champions that I honestly don't mind. But let's not pretend Evelynn is anything else than a lazy cliché.

HalfTangibleJan 15, 20172 votes

Uhm.... you claim that's not what I said and then you proceed to quote exactly what I said. XD

Yes. Because it's a completely different thing from what you claimed you said. You said that she was a half naked temptress, then later claimed you said she was generic. You did not.

See how I described exactly what I said - that Evelynn is a lame generic temptress archetype and has literally nothing else going for her.

You said that 'half-naked' was not the problem you had, even though it was what you said the problem was. I quoted your earlier post to point this out. Pay attention.

See how I described exactly what I said - that Evelynn is a lame generic temptress archetype and has literally nothing else going for her.

eyeroll Keep tellin' yourself that buddy :P

But let's not pretend Evelynn is anything else than a lazy cliché.

And now I have to repeat myself.

Evelynn-is-a-cruel,-manipulative-woman-who-enjoys-toying-with-the-hearts-and-minds-of-those-she-encounters-for-the-sole-purpose-of-making-them-afraid/miserable/paranoid-(See-Twisted-Fate-in-the-Journal-of-Justice).-She's-quick,-clever,-and-revels-in-the-pain-of-others.-Her-recent-lore-update-also-showed-she-likes-showing-those-who-hire-her-that-she's-in-charge.

It's-not-exactly-complex-but-claiming-that-she's-as-one-note-as,-say,-Garen-is-just-silly.

LunSeiSleideeJan 16, 20171 votes

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Yes. Because it's a completely different thing from what you claimed you said. You said that she was a half naked temptress, then later claimed you said she was generic. You did not.

You said that 'half-naked' was not the problem you had, even though it was what you said the problem was. I quoted your earlier post to point this out. Pay attention.

eyeroll Keep tellin' yourself that buddy :P

And now I have to repeat myself.

Sooooo...... you desperately want to convince yourself that Evelynn is a complex character idea, and is also original enough? You want to tell yourself she's not a random generic halfnaked temptress whole only character trait is sex appeal and maybe blue skin?

D'aawww. I won't spoil it for you then.

HalfTangibleJan 16, 20171 votes

Sooooo...... you desperately want to convince yourself that Evelynn is a complex character idea, and is also original enough?

A) "Original enough"? Do you know anything about storytelling at all?

B) Me earlier:

It's-not-exactly-complex-but-claiming-that-she's-as-one-note-as,-say,-Garen-is-just-silly.

I think it's pretty clear at this point you're not actually reading what I'm saying, so I'm gonna go elsewhere. There are other posts here covering traits besides 'sexy temptress' in any case.

LunSeiSleideeJan 17, 20171 votes

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A) "Original enough"? Do you know anything about storytelling at all?

B) Me earlier:

I think it's pretty clear at this point you're not actually reading what I'm saying, so I'm gonna go elsewhere. There are other posts here covering traits besides 'sexy temptress' in any case.

Yeah. With so many cool champions, I have no problem if you want to defend your waifu and pretend she's not a veeery generic halfnaked temptress cliché.

HalfTangibleJan 18, 20171 votes

waifu

Don't be ridiculous.

Tristana is best girl and Lamb is my waifu. Also Riven and Shyvana.

LunSeiSleideeJan 18, 20172 votes

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Don't be ridiculous.

Tristana is best girl and Lamb is my waifu. Also Riven and Shyvana.

Ok, you have good taste in waifus and there is nothing I can say to this.

OleandervineJan 13, 20171 votes

I highly doubt Riot will remake Evelynn to look like her current splash, considering it was made over 5 years ago, when adding a plethora of spikes to things was considered "the cool thing to do." (Hi Mordekaiser! Hi Kassadin!) And I desperately hope they don't stick with this current look. Evelynn's current look, quite frankly, is just utterly terrible. She's basically a demon stripper from some cheap, sketchy porn, and that's not ok for the likes of this game. An assassin like Evelynn needs class, darkness, mystique, and intrigue, especially if she's going to be using her art of seduction to woo her targets. It makes absolutely no sense for her to be wearing this, just as it makes no sense for a ninja to be wearing white or bright pink. They need to class Evelynn up. They can still execute the seductress look without resorting to making her look immediately trampy; The current look she has now screams "pay me to spank you," and the game has evolved past the point of needing the hooker fantasy in full force like this.

mirAcIeJan 13, 20176 votes

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I highly doubt Riot will remake Evelynn to look like her current splash, considering it was made over 5 years ago, when adding a plethora of spikes to things was considered "the cool thing to do." (Hi Mordekaiser! Hi Kassadin!) And I desperately hope they don't stick with this current look. Evelynn's current look, quite frankly, is just utterly terrible. She's basically a demon stripper from some cheap, sketchy porn, and that's not ok for the likes of this game. An assassin like Evelynn needs class, darkness, mystique, and intrigue, especially if she's going to be using her art of seduction to woo her targets. It makes absolutely no sense for her to be wearing this, just as it makes no sense for a ninja to be wearing white or bright pink. They need to class Evelynn up. They can still execute the seductress look without resorting to making her look immediately trampy; The current look she has now screams "pay me to spank you," and the game has evolved past the point of needing the hooker fantasy in full force like this.

Her current splash was added around 9 months ago. It expands on the her original look adding more detail and logic to her appearance. It does not look like what you described unless you have some implications in your head beforehand.

OleandervineJan 13, 20172 votes

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Her current splash was added around 9 months ago. It expands on the her original look adding more detail and logic to her appearance. It does not look like what you described unless you have some implications in your head beforehand.

I'm sorry, did you just try to argue that her current splash isn't demon dominatrix stripper? She's wearing a spiked bikini with thigh high boots, and it's all pink and black. That's exactly the look she is giving off. There is no other way to spin this look.

mirAcIeJan 13, 20173 votes

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I'm sorry, did you just try to argue that her current splash isn't demon dominatrix stripper? She's wearing a spiked bikini with thigh high boots, and it's all pink and black. That's exactly the look she is giving off. There is no other way to spin this look.

Are you sure we are talking about the same splash?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cqp4Kwkuyds/Vw6QJOvIo7I/AAAAAAAA500/Tkwtl57Ek_QxEetrHOvKa8_CK05ips1rQCLcB/s1600/Evelynn_Splash_0.jpg

She does not have spikes anywhere except her leggings. And you can't even see the boots. They removed all that stuff on this splash, while making her 100% recognizable. And now her outfit looks more like something Kitana from Mortal Kombat wears than anything that you described.

http://i.imgur.com/PxozjgX.jpg[/img] like this^

It's like you are looking at the old version and not the updated one.

OleandervineJan 13, 20175 votes

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Are you sure we are talking about the same splash?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-cqp4Kwkuyds/Vw6QJOvIo7I/AAAAAAAA500/Tkwtl57Ek_QxEetrHOvKa8_CK05ips1rQCLcB/s1600/Evelynn_Splash_0.jpg

She does not have spikes anywhere except her leggings. And you can't even see the boots. They removed all that stuff on this splash, while making her 100% recognizable. And now her outfit looks more like something Kitana from Mortal Kombat wears than anything that you described.

http://i.imgur.com/PxozjgX.jpg[/img] like this^

It's like you are looking at the old version and not the updated one.

She has spikes on every finger joint, her thighs, and her elbows. She's still wearing a pink and black bikini. And using Mortal Kombat to try and validate women's clothing is like using SpongeBob to validate business casual attire.

mirAcIeJan 13, 20172 votes

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She has spikes on every finger joint, her thighs, and her elbows. She's still wearing a pink and black bikini. And using Mortal Kombat to try and validate women's clothing is like using SpongeBob to validate business casual attire.

Neither of those are parts of bikini. Also, bringing up Mortal Kombat when speaking of superhero videogame women is wrong? Really though? Ima have to disagree with you on that one. Especially when we're discussing a game where we have characters like Zyra who is literally naked and covered by some leaves here and there lol.

So far you stated several things that are false and never bothered to correct yourself.

OleandervineJan 13, 20172 votes

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Neither of those are parts of bikini. Also, bringing up Mortal Kombat when speaking of superhero videogame women is wrong? Really though? Ima have to disagree with you on that one. Especially when we're discussing a game where we have characters like Zyra who is literally naked and covered by some leaves here and there lol.

So far you stated several things that are false and never bothered to correct yourself.

So you're arguing about the literal bikini itself, and not the entire outfit. You can't argue just parts of the composition when it's all added together to deliver one visual impression. And as for videogame/superhero women, only if you're living in the 90s do people still consider the costume tropes to be scantily clad and big boobed. Yes, Zyra exists, but Zyra is also a plant creature, and wearing no clothing at all. Volibear is naked too, except for a helmet, and technically, so is Nami. Yet all of these champions deliver their looks without coming across as completely trashy. Evelynn's look is old, it's dated, and it died in the 90s. She needs to be remodeled and updated to modern standard because the quality of the game has improved so that we should be able to move beyond character appearances like hers that are nothing but testosterone driven wet dreams.