Why do i see people hating on mage supports and even when they know it works

d4rkshock··2 votes·917 views

So when i get autofill into support, i always brand support. Out of the 5 games in my ranked adventures that has happened, i lost 1. But when i do i see people saying shit like don't Brand support or even you fucking noob, brand isn't a support. If the ADC fails and you picked a mage support, you are basically a backup carry. You still don't take care and you poke the the enemy laners down. Some even have decent peel like zyra and brand ults. If they fight in the circle, they get cc'd or if they don't run away, they just watch a Michel bay movie on their health bars. Veigar's stun is good for peeling since he can trap them and the ADC car run away. Annie can easily cc 3-5 people focusing your carries. But anyways the point is it works and also I'm not sure if this still the case but adc's suck in S7. Also if you look at DotA, there's a plethora of supports who have high damage nukes and that's their main thing. Like if you look at skywrath mage, he has an ability that weakens magic resist by a fuck ton and sciences and the rest of his abilities are all nukes and one of them slows. To be fair, the way lanes work in DotA is kind of different where there's usually 3 people in the safelane (a carry and 2 supports) against one person in the offlane where the supports just try to harrasing the offlaner and stack/pull jungle camps to keep the lane from pushing. Stack means you pull the monsters out of the camp and if done at the right time more will spawn it that camp. Pulling means you pull them into the lane to agro your creeps on them. The offlaner are either extremely tanky or has good escapes and don't need alot of gold. For riadiant safe lane is bottom and dire it's top. For offlane it's raidiant top and dire bot. Anyways the point is they have alot of nukes. It also works in lol minus the 3v1 and the whole stacking and pulling mumbo jumbo. But what i don't understand is why do people hate on it when it actually works and people play whatever champion they want that works for the role they are playing.

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llIllIllIllIll2 votes

It's because mage supports have a negative stigma that the player behind them doesn't want to play support and would rather try and carry


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dark100dark1001 votes

I am a supp main and play mostly with malzahar. It is not my fault, this is the current meta created by rito. When tahm was a thing I played tahm, when sona was a thing I played sona, when tresh was a thing ... etc. But now I must play with malzahar because he is the thing. Perhaps the new support champion will be the next thing.

d4rkshock1 votes

I always brand support when i get autofilled. I only lost 1 out the f the 5 games i played. he also has a good teamfight with his ult.

dark100dark1001 votes

My point was as long as you are good with it, play it. When meta shifts, and you cannot maintain the winrate, you must play something else.

OurLestrade1 votes

It's one less person being the front line, since everyone wants to autolock assassins and duelists and carries and junk for top/jungle/mid. The amount of times I've been the front and back line at the same time is scary.

DemainaNyx1 votes

From my experience as a Brand support, the carries want to be the carry basically and don't like you taking their place.

I was FP and no one said anything during champ select. No one was hovering anything, so I picked Brand so we had some AP since so many team think AD in 4 positions is perfectly fine. Immediately my ADC goes, "Anyone want ADC? I hate Brand support." No one wants it so we load into game. 3 minutes into lane my ADC decides he doesn't want to lane any more and starts following around our jungler trying to steal their CS and basically just annoy the rest of the team. So, I'm stuck bot lane trying to 1v2 a lane. Since it was a Ezreal and Karma lane, I was able to wave clear decently and keep them off my tower pretty well. After a bit, our Twitch decided to stop trolling and actually pushed and got an inhib for us since the enemy team was too busy trying to group and take the tower we were defending. End game after we won somehow, my team starts saying "remember to report twitch" only for the enemy team to say "Twitch carried" "that inhib take won the game". Yeah.... sure.... Let's just ignore all the stalling the other 4 people had to do before the Twitch decided to stop trolling. Let's just ignore him annoying our other lanes while ignoring the lane he was assigned to because "Brand doesn't front line." No shit, I poke and nuke, not CC lock. If you want CC lock, maybe say something next time before I lock in a champ.

If you swap out Brand for Sona, you'll notice that generally Sona swaps from a poke support to more of a traditional support late game who does more with heals, shields, and stuns vs pure damage, meaning that your pure damage sources look better because their damage numbers start to stand out. Alternatively, if you swap Brand for Thresh, Thresh will be an engage tool at the beginning to lock people down so the ADC gets the glory, whereas late game Thresh sorta transitions into a peel and engage tool, meaning the ADCs gets to play a bit more recklessly cause "Thresh will save me".

I mean, as a completely random example, I played a bot game as Ashe with Bond of Stone and Censer rush just to see what it was like. After loading into the game and buying my support item and running to lane, my Jhin ADC said, "Can lux and ashe swap so I can have a normal lane phase?" Really dude? It's bots. This is not normal to begin with. And two, you waited until I bought an item that would pretty much be worthless solo to ask for a lane swap? Three, did you not notice my keystone or build. I took a keystone that heals you. I took an item so that you can CS. Tell me what is screaming, "this ashe is trying to be the ADC."

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