Would it be that bad if we had a Juggernaut meta in S8?

MuffledGarbage··2 votes·661 views

Now it might sound crazy because of some notable juggernauts such as Darius JarvanIV Yorick Vi(I know Vi is more of a diver but she has a few Juggernaut qualities) and Illaoi with how strong they've been in the past...

But right now might be a good time for a juggernaut meta.

The juggernaut class is one with a simple condition for beating them

stay out of range

And this counter play can be accessible to all the ranged champs and a few of the more mobile melee champs(EkkoandZed first come to mind) Juggernauts don't build a lot of defenses until later in the game so they have a clear-cut way to be beaten if you get another lane ahead.

ADCs will still be able to kite Juggernauts and counterthem which will put them into check.

And having a juggernaut meta would open up botlane to shenanigans more crazy than Mordekaiser Blitzcrank bot which as been a request for riot by quite a few players.

Also having Juggernauts be more prelevant would mean less tanks in matches which leads to less chain CC complains (even though chain CC takes quite a bit of co-ordination and trust with your teammates and is pretty balanced even if it IS unfun).

Mages would be as relevant as Assassins because they'd be able to force some of the enemy Juggernaut's gold towards defenses earlier in the game rather than after a main damage item. (take item 3078 Yorick or item 3071 Darius and now the enemy Ahri makes those two have to buy a item 3211 which will delay their damage item)

Every class in the game would be more relevant as a result of Buffing Juggernauts(or jugg items) to a point where they are a big part of the meta from my guesses.

Comment below and remember to keep the discussion on the civil side of things.

7 Comments

Marshbouy3 votes

give me a moment, I'm going to consult big L on this.

He says "every meta should be a juggernaut meta" Disclaimer: he did not actually say this

chipndip12 votes

Free muh boi.

jwebb01132 votes

chip you should join marhsbouy's group in client

Cavemantero1 votes

Tanks really aren't the problem. The only reason chain cc is op is because of the terrible terrible damage from adcs, burst mages, assassins, etc. riot wanted faster games so they increased the damage to a stupid point where a hard cc = instakill on your squishies. its basically who gets the first hard engage and sticks their cc first that wins. no strategy = unfun.

I'm down for a juggernaut meta but assassin players hate them so it probably won't happen because they are typically the most toxic ion game and who whine on the boards endlessly. Duskblade is such a stupid item...

MuffledGarbage1 votes

I used a portion of every class of players' complaints in order to get the highest chance of support.

Tanks aren't a problem by themselves at the moment, but the Juggernaut meta would still solve the damage creep WHILE also making teamcomps look more like 1-juggernaut, 1 tank, 1 mage/assassin, 1 peeler support, 1 Adc which is overall much more rounded out and easier to balance from my game design experience.

1 of every type of a class in a game means they are all equally relevant most of the time so I figure if we throw a juggernaut meta then all other classes will have be equally relevant probably.

Assassin players hate ADCs melting them more than they hate Juggernauts.

And having a Juggernaut that's able to take care of ADCs thanks to buffs from rito gems would make assassins complain less about juggernauts and thank riot more for lowering ADC damage probably.

nyx19981 votes

then you will see Janna more often

Bronze Demon1 votes

Anything is better than adc meta which has been existing since s2 to now. 5 seasons of tht bs

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