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Smurfs man.

Bent Pixels··2 votes·400 views

Why do people even smurf tho lol does it like boost their ego and make them feel better or some crazy shit? are they not good enough to play in their own elo so they have to drop like 3 divisions just to shit on everyone?

I just got out of a game midlaning against an akali. ive fucking played bronze akalis before... and this was def not one of them. she went like 18/1/4 or some shit by the end of the game (which only took 23 mins) and her only death was at the beginning when she solo invaded our jungle and we 4v1'ed her. unless this player was god himself there's no way this was a bronze player. if for some very interesting reason this is an actual bronze player, give this hoe like 50 LP a game because she belongs AT LEAST in silver

i was so close to entering my promos for b3 too... sadness. im just tryna climb bruh xD :(

BTW yes i know im in b4 right now and i know im super duper shit at the game but, like i said, ive played bronze akalis, and even if they did good, they didnt go 18/1 by the 20ish min mark. crazy dude... just crazy. idek what the point of this discussion is im just tryna vent my emotions rn or some crazy shit because i am beyond pissed rn lol fuCKING SMURFS MAN GO BACK TO YOUR OWN ELO WE DONT WANT YOU HERE EVEN IF YOURE ON OUR TEAM GO AWAY NEVER COME BACK

maybe im overreacting, maybe im not. but someone out there has to agree with me

alright im done, thanks

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Odysseus2631 votes

I smurf because I dislike going into a game of people who are ~gold inside of blind pick and i type in fill and they say "nice border" after i die or if i'm having connection issues i end up feeding then they harass me. Fresh account that's unranked so i can enjoy a game where i don't get harassed via question mark pings and people flaming me so much i want to leave the game. :)

Akali scales hard once she hits ~10/11. If you feed her at 6 and don't expect her to feed then you are the reason you are bronze. Learn to battle her pre-6! Her abilties are countered by hard CC such as Annie, Syndra, Malzahar, etc. Play those, they are fun!

Don't say you are bad! Never! You are just not as talented or knowledgeable about the game as some players are. Different people pick up things faster. I am REALLY bad at games. My friend from diamond had to coach me for almost a full month until i just got to the point i could play mid lane at a silver level. I am currently mid to high platinum and hit another peak i need to pass through. I know your pain just keep at it! :) Here is a guide i found to be actually really knowledgeable. If you can outfarm someone who has a few kills on you at bronze-silver elo you win every game. League of legends is a strategy game. Just have a better strategy! There is actually something i've found out myself for you and everyone else to know who kind of talked to me later, which i cannot post his name here for a reason of harassment to post names in forums, and said that: 1/3 games you auto win 1/3 games you auto lose 1/3 games that comes to your actual skill.

Helpful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd0boZQkyuo&list=PLTqMstiW6nsBBFXkRXFd6ybP1HBlU9Fne

Hopefully this helps you feel less tilted but most players inside of their "own" elo are probably suspended or permanently banned on their main account and need a fresh one due to negative attitudes.

Good luck on your climb and i'll look forward to seeing you on the rift, Summoners! [slayer-jinx-catface]

Bent Pixels1 votes

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I smurf because I dislike going into a game of people who are ~gold inside of blind pick and i type in fill and they say "nice border" after i die or if i'm having connection issues i end up feeding then they harass me. Fresh account that's unranked so i can enjoy a game where i don't get harassed via question mark pings and people flaming me so much i want to leave the game. :)

Akali scales hard once she hits ~10/11. If you feed her at 6 and don't expect her to feed then you are the reason you are bronze. Learn to battle her pre-6! Her abilties are countered by hard CC such as Annie, Syndra, Malzahar, etc. Play those, they are fun!

Don't say you are bad! Never! You are just not as talented or knowledgeable about the game as some players are. Different people pick up things faster. I am REALLY bad at games. My friend from diamond had to coach me for almost a full month until i just got to the point i could play mid lane at a silver level. I am currently mid to high platinum and hit another peak i need to pass through. I know your pain just keep at it! :) Here is a guide i found to be actually really knowledgeable. If you can outfarm someone who has a few kills on you at bronze-silver elo you win every game. League of legends is a strategy game. Just have a better strategy! There is actually something i've found out myself for you and everyone else to know who kind of talked to me later, which i cannot post his name here for a reason of harassment to post names in forums, and said that: 1/3 games you auto win 1/3 games you auto lose 1/3 games that comes to your actual skill.

Helpful video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zd0boZQkyuo&list=PLTqMstiW6nsBBFXkRXFd6ybP1HBlU9Fne

Hopefully this helps you feel less tilted but most players inside of their "own" elo are probably suspended or permanently banned on their main account and need a fresh one due to negative attitudes.

Good luck on your climb and i'll look forward to seeing you on the rift, Summoners! [slayer-jinx-catface]

wow i actually got a helpful response to my rant. i thought i’d get flamed by people saying “just learn to outplay her she isn’t even that good” or “well no wonder you’re in bronze”. i really appreciate you putting the time into giving me all of his info. i’ll make sure to check out that video.

if you have the time to respond to the following question, please do. you said that even if i feed or get behind in a lane that out-farming them will win games most of the time. so, my question is how does one farm efficiently? like, i always see these high elo streamers and pro players devastating the CS numbers throughout the entire game, some even up to 500, which is a SHITLOAD of CS/min. currently i’m sitting on an average of 6ish CS/min, which isn’t necessarily good, even for my elo. how does one do it? i know last hitting and freezing waves helps but i just can’t seem to be consistent with my farming. do i go for jungle? do i constantly switch lanes to get the most farm possible? how do you farm? any info relate to that topic would help me greatly.

thanks so much for your time!

Odysseus2631 votes

Where to begin.. I can go on for sooo long to teach you the rules of the game. I'm going to try though to do it in one post.

"How does one farm efficiently?"

This is a tough question. Define efficiently. I describe it to people as bronze/silver/gold = 60 cs per 10 minutes. If you're platinum or higher i expect at least 80+ cs @ 10 minutes. The difference isn't in the champions or the skill, this one is knowledge based. Inside of each wave on summoners rift there is 3 caster minions and 3 melee minions. Every 30 seconds a wave is released and after every 90 seconds (every third wave basically) cannon minions are sent to each wave. Each one has different HP values (duh..) but it is really awkward! I myself have issues timing the cater minions but i've worked it down to a basic principle on **EVERY ** champion you are able to apply this method! Caster minion = Turret shot + 2 auto attacks Melee minion = 2 Turret shots + 1 auto attack Siege minion = 7 Turret shots + 1 auto attack (2 if you play someone like ryze/brand who have low AD)

"Like, i always see these high elo streamers and pro players devastating the CS numbers throughout the entire game, some even up to 500, which is a SHITLOAD of CS/min."

It can be VERY overwhelming depending on who you look at it, and just like you some pros could have a good day or a bad day! It is not uncommon to hear a pro player having 30 cs by 12 minutes (they have hit 30 at 10 minutes but by 12 it's basically game over for them) and even more freaky and cool I've seen people who are bronze 3/4 area achieve over 10 cs a minute AKA Perfect cs. I play a lot of shyvana and usually by ~27 minutes i have a 11 cs per minute score. I.e 297 cs @ 27 minutes. People are like "dat cs tho" and i usually say "ty daddy" or something like that. I digress though. Next question!

"i know last hitting and freezing waves helps but i just can’t seem to be consistent with my farming"

There are guides out there like the one i listed. You can find people on the boards by saying "Looking for willing coach for free to teach basic farming principles" inside of the _PLAYER RECRUITMENT _ board. Make sure to put both that title AND correct board on it or it will be removed for false title or wrong board. Next!

"Do i go for jungle?"

I mean, you're a mid lane main from what i'm seeing on your op.gg... your secondary is jungle so if you want to switch and reverse them it isn't that hard. Just learn pathing and you should be good tbh. If you are asking should you take jungle camps i suggest taking EITHER wolves or raptors. I suggest wolves since they are easier to clear for the amount of damage they deal to you. It's roughly 100 extra gold when you are waiting for the wave to push towards you.. gold advantage can be massive off of one item where you got that 100 gold for free. :)

"Do i constantly switch lanes to get the most farm possible?"

Honestly i can't tell you. Your elo is completely retarded (no offense to anyone pls don't flag me) when it comes to decision making. Like i could sit here and not look at the monitor and make better ones probably, but i digress! Just switch lanes to apply pressure and have your team push while you split. This is known as split pushing and it is a way of generating massive pressure somewhere on the map when there is just sitting around in mid lane in the classic ARAM style for 2 minutes.. in plat i see it too much... oh well. There are other methods too. If you can have a carry sit mid with a tank and someone else i.e. a support then have the top and mid/adc (whoever didn't go) can split push. This method is known as a 1-3-1 push. You have 3 lanes pushing with 1 in the top, 3 in the middle, and 1 in bot. They have to answer your split's call or they lose towers for global gold and/or possible loss of an inhibitor to stop the minions from pushing. Plays off of this include: Going somewhere top/mid/bot when they rotate to grab ANOTHER turret for the cost of probably only a teleport. Another play is going towards an objective like Baron (if they push bot and get a turret and they roam bot they can't be at baron and bot at the same time so they effectively lost it), or go to a drake. Every dragon matters fam!

"How do you farm?"

I should publish a book at this point. Oof. How to farm.. that's a really specific question. Back when i was in music (still am and getting a minor in it btw) I used to have a saying: "Practice makes perfect, and perfect is the act of repetition". That being said, Farming is like like me playing music. I have to practice soooo much to actually be decent at it. My adc skills (my favorite role but not my best since i'm a jungle main) is right around 70 per 10 if i have a good lane. Bad lane is like 40-50 such as caitlyn/draven.. too oppressive. Anyhow! I think i have a good video for you, see if it works or not for you after you test it. The man who made this video is actually REALLY good. Few years in diamond on multiple accounts so he has merit on talking about this stuff, whether he is an ADC main or not now i'm not sure, but he loves to play some lucian.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTB1tkwfgLE

Any additional questions i'll be glad to answer. I enjoy helping the community grow!

Bent Pixels1 votes

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Where to begin.. I can go on for sooo long to teach you the rules of the game. I'm going to try though to do it in one post.

"How does one farm efficiently?"

This is a tough question. Define efficiently. I describe it to people as bronze/silver/gold = 60 cs per 10 minutes. If you're platinum or higher i expect at least 80+ cs @ 10 minutes. The difference isn't in the champions or the skill, this one is knowledge based. Inside of each wave on summoners rift there is 3 caster minions and 3 melee minions. Every 30 seconds a wave is released and after every 90 seconds (every third wave basically) cannon minions are sent to each wave. Each one has different HP values (duh..) but it is really awkward! I myself have issues timing the cater minions but i've worked it down to a basic principle on **EVERY ** champion you are able to apply this method! Caster minion = Turret shot + 2 auto attacks Melee minion = 2 Turret shots + 1 auto attack Siege minion = 7 Turret shots + 1 auto attack (2 if you play someone like ryze/brand who have low AD)

"Like, i always see these high elo streamers and pro players devastating the CS numbers throughout the entire game, some even up to 500, which is a SHITLOAD of CS/min."

It can be VERY overwhelming depending on who you look at it, and just like you some pros could have a good day or a bad day! It is not uncommon to hear a pro player having 30 cs by 12 minutes (they have hit 30 at 10 minutes but by 12 it's basically game over for them) and even more freaky and cool I've seen people who are bronze 3/4 area achieve over 10 cs a minute AKA Perfect cs. I play a lot of shyvana and usually by ~27 minutes i have a 11 cs per minute score. I.e 297 cs @ 27 minutes. People are like "dat cs tho" and i usually say "ty daddy" or something like that. I digress though. Next question!

"i know last hitting and freezing waves helps but i just can’t seem to be consistent with my farming"

There are guides out there like the one i listed. You can find people on the boards by saying "Looking for willing coach for free to teach basic farming principles" inside of the _PLAYER RECRUITMENT _ board. Make sure to put both that title AND correct board on it or it will be removed for false title or wrong board. Next!

"Do i go for jungle?"

I mean, you're a mid lane main from what i'm seeing on your op.gg... your secondary is jungle so if you want to switch and reverse them it isn't that hard. Just learn pathing and you should be good tbh. If you are asking should you take jungle camps i suggest taking EITHER wolves or raptors. I suggest wolves since they are easier to clear for the amount of damage they deal to you. It's roughly 100 extra gold when you are waiting for the wave to push towards you.. gold advantage can be massive off of one item where you got that 100 gold for free. :)

"Do i constantly switch lanes to get the most farm possible?"

Honestly i can't tell you. Your elo is completely retarded (no offense to anyone pls don't flag me) when it comes to decision making. Like i could sit here and not look at the monitor and make better ones probably, but i digress! Just switch lanes to apply pressure and have your team push while you split. This is known as split pushing and it is a way of generating massive pressure somewhere on the map when there is just sitting around in mid lane in the classic ARAM style for 2 minutes.. in plat i see it too much... oh well. There are other methods too. If you can have a carry sit mid with a tank and someone else i.e. a support then have the top and mid/adc (whoever didn't go) can split push. This method is known as a 1-3-1 push. You have 3 lanes pushing with 1 in the top, 3 in the middle, and 1 in bot. They have to answer your split's call or they lose towers for global gold and/or possible loss of an inhibitor to stop the minions from pushing. Plays off of this include: Going somewhere top/mid/bot when they rotate to grab ANOTHER turret for the cost of probably only a teleport. Another play is going towards an objective like Baron (if they push bot and get a turret and they roam bot they can't be at baron and bot at the same time so they effectively lost it), or go to a drake. Every dragon matters fam!

"How do you farm?"

I should publish a book at this point. Oof. How to farm.. that's a really specific question. Back when i was in music (still am and getting a minor in it btw) I used to have a saying: "Practice makes perfect, and perfect is the act of repetition". That being said, Farming is like like me playing music. I have to practice soooo much to actually be decent at it. My adc skills (my favorite role but not my best since i'm a jungle main) is right around 70 per 10 if i have a good lane. Bad lane is like 40-50 such as caitlyn/draven.. too oppressive. Anyhow! I think i have a good video for you, see if it works or not for you after you test it. The man who made this video is actually REALLY good. Few years in diamond on multiple accounts so he has merit on talking about this stuff, whether he is an ADC main or not now i'm not sure, but he loves to play some lucian.

Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTB1tkwfgLE

Any additional questions i'll be glad to answer. I enjoy helping the community grow!

Thank you so much for all of this information. I was seriously not expecting this much so thank you.

Okay, now we talk about it.

When I say "farming efficiently" I'm mostly worried about my mid to late game. My early game farming seems to be okay and, as an Ekko main, few champions can win trades against me, so it's not my early game CS, it's mid to late game. It seems that whenever it's the "teamfighting" stage of the game (for bronze it's around 20ish minutes) my CS just freezes or goes up very slowly. What do you suggest that I do during this time? I tend to carry or do good in the majority of my games, so I feel as if my presence in teamfights is necessary to win it. So what do I do in these situations? That's what I meant by "do I go to the jungle or do I split push lanes/go to different lanes" and whatnot.

I feel relatively confident in my jungling skills, for my elo at least, even though I'm pretty sure I'm not doing it right. I also use Shyvana for jungling (I'm thinking about trying Zac or Evelynn soon though), but I usually have more CS than my entire team by the end of the game, and by watching NA LCS every weekend I notice that the jungler has much less CS than the laners. This is just something I've noticed abiut my gameplay.

I will definitely be sure to do that "looking for CS coach" thing on the boards, I didn't even think about that. I'll also check out those two videos links you gave me.

I was hardcore practicing my CSing a couple weeks ago in a training game, but I didn't necessarily see it transfer over into my ranked games, so I just stopped practicing in general and thought "Screw it, I'll just learn on the job... seems to be working a little for me already". I have made so many posts regarding CS and how to efficiently do it and you're response to a discussion that wasn't even CS related helped the most so far, so I really appreciate you taking the time to give me k n o w l e d g e.

At the moment I can't necessarily think of anything else to ask, but I be sure to ask you if I think of anything else.

Thanks, once again!

Odysseus2631 votes

I don't have much time but what i find most effective is would be either getting top or bot ahead. If bot is a heavy late game scaling champion i.e. twitch/vayne/etc, then gank bot. If it is someone like caitlyn/kalista don't bother since they are honestly just going to scale during team fights, it's weird but don't question it lol. In most cases ganking top when it is pushed all the way in (also make sure you have ult up when you engage.. i can't stress that point enough. If in both cases you can't gank then just farm your mid lane harder. If you have in the wave ASAP then you can roam to create an opportunity to roam/gank or simulate like you left, that way you can sit in a bush and kill your enemy mid laner when they walk into the river.

Actually, sometimes not being in a teamfight is good. people think your damage is "all that" when in reality it's mostly just lich bane and your passive. Just wait for them to burst you heavily and then press r. the enemy loses a lot of CC and you gain 80% of your lost hp back.

Glad i could answer the question for you about the jungling.

Zac is good, evelynn i dislike (you get ahead you could still lose but with zac it's easier to stay in game due to cc). Junglers are meant for objectives, not to win lanes for anyone. That's my opinion. I play solo carry junglers like shyvana/warwick/etc to make ME win if i get my team behind i know how to win, and they do not. I have bad mentality like that so don't follow my example~ Just play a jungler that is natural. Shyvana will have high cs. so will sejuani and zac. Don't worry about it and skip krugs to help bot or top lane ;o

I used to practice like 3 hours every few days in a bot game to just focus on my CSing. No AD runes (old system) and bought a dagger (12% attack speed) so i would be forced to learn how to cs.

I sent you a friend request, if you have any other questions message me on there.

e46 Fanatic1 votes

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maybe im overreacting, maybe im not.

you are overthinking it. First off you needs to know that akali is just one of those champs that can run around one hitting people, she's an assassin and an easy one to play. But sometimes, bro, you'll come across players like me(silver 5/bronzie) but has 4000+ hours played. For some of my own faults plus other's, I'm pretty hard stuck in my elo but that doesn't stop me from being accused of scripting and/or being a smurf when i pop off. Technically I'm not a smurf because I'm on my main account, just in low elo. You'd be accusing me of smurfing when I'm not, don't overthink this I hate seeing these posts >.< People really need to understand that there are some seriously skilled players in low elo(and no I'm not point to myself, I've been surprised more than I can count about how good some people are in bronze-silver.)

Odysseus2631 votes

k.

e46 Fanatic2 votes

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I don't understand why you're asshurt over my comment

Odysseus2632 votes

your comment's flow hurt my brain trying to keep it all together. Look at mine it's nice and spaced out for easier viewing.

TheProfezzor1 votes

I don't normally have much issues with smurfs but ya I imagine they def ruin player experience for low low elos.

Odysseus2631 votes

Not really, it is just the people who decide to be an active disturbance in the community and get several permanently banned accounts because they can't control their temper.

Bent Pixels1 votes

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I don't normally have much issues with smurfs but ya I imagine they def ruin player experience for low low elos.

yeah they are kinda annoying lmao. i actually looked at his (the akali that shit on me) stats and i now dont even think that he is a smurf, he just had a really, REALLY good game... i have these games too i guess but he really didnt play like a bronze.

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