Ahri is in every single game

Blåbæret··8 votes·585 views

Can we just nerf her? Just do it.

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Otherworldz4 votes

You know you could just ban her. Or you could just ask your team to ban her.

DuskDaUmbreon3 votes

Or OP could just learn to play any midlane assassin at all and counter her. Or just git gud.

ChaddyFantome2 votes

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Or OP could just learn to play any midlane assassin at all and counter her. Or just git gud.

what midlane assassin counters ahri?

DuskDaUmbreon3 votes

Akali avoids half her damage, Fizz avoids her E, Katarina always at least ties lane (but usually loses later-on), Talon pokes faster and harder than Ahri does, and closes gaps better, and Zed is able to avoid everything BUT her W, between his R and W.

For non-assassins, Annie's P+C CC means she wins, Azir well out-harasses her, and can stop her ult, Kassadin wins against pretty much every mage, Lux just needs to land one Q to combo Ahri (and her E out-pokes Ahri's Q), Malzahar crushes her pretty well with his ult alone, Morgana is a living, breathing counter to Ahri, Pantheon shits on Ahri in every stage, unless she's stupid-fed, Ryze isn't good right now, but his P+C CC is pretty crazy on her, too, Swain's too tanky for her to kill, Veigar is a supposed counter alongside Leblanc (but I've never had problems against them, so I'm not too sure about that), and Yasuo also seems made to counter her. That's 17 different champions she struggles against, most, if not all, being viable midlaners.

And, yes, these are all match ups I have personally found to be extremely difficult. And I main Ahri.

ChaddyFantome2 votes

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Akali avoids half her damage,

But she cant actually kill ahri because ahri will just Charm her and or back off with Q ms and then ult from enemy tower to her tower.

Fizz avoids her E,

And then what?

Katarina always at least ties lane (but usually loses later-on),

She just gets E'd when she ults or jumps in.

Talon pokes faster and harder than Ahri does, and closes gaps better,

LOL no he fucking doesn't Ahri's Poke is longer ranged and harder to dodge, does more damage to the minion wave with its true damage and gives her MS to keep her out of harms way whenever she uses it.

Talon's Gapcloser is a short range pont and click spell that requires he walk up to you into Ahri's auto range in a str8 line to use which means he will always get charmed by any Ahri that is semi decent. After his Q he has no mobility for an all-in. Because HAri charmed him mid Q, he cant even proc his passive and autolost first blood. In constrats, Ahri has 3 Non-targeted dashes in any direction...

Zed is able to avoid everything BUT her W, between his R and W.

While I'll concede he is probably a decent matchup against her, he still isn't a counter. He just gets E's as soon as his ultimate animation ends assuming the Ahri isn't bad and saves it, then she proceeds to R away and Zed now has no way to use his combo since he cant get to her.

For non-assassins, Annie

Didn't even read the rest of this line because this is a JOKE xD Annie cant even get NEAR Ahri to poke her with Qs. Ahri will spend all lane Qing her and backing off while annie hopes for a gank. If Annie tries to go up to her, she will just get hit with Q or E.

Azir well out-harasses her, and can stop her ult,

Ive done this matchup dozens of times and Ahri has the advantage in it. Ahri too easily gets out of his threat range with her Q and her mobility and range laugh at Azir's wall because the cast time on his wall is far slower than her R.

Even if he manages to knock her back, her E and Q get thrown out before the nockback and then eh does to incidents W an R damage.

Kassadin wins against pretty much every mage,

Except he cant really beat her in lane because until 6 he is her bitch. And even at 6, she just ultis away and E's him and he cant do anythign about it. Later on he does outscale her though, btu ti takes too long in an early game meta.

Lux just needs to land one Q to combo Ahri (and her E out-pokes Ahri's Q),

How is Ahri getting Q's by Lux when she has 3 Dashes and MS from Q? And while yes her E makes for good poke against her Lux herself doesn't have much pressure on Ahri.

Malzahar crushes her pretty well with his ult alone,

tbh, I would've gave you Malzahar if he wasn't nerfed out of midlane viability

Morgana is a living, breathing counter to Ahri,

No she isn't. Is she is, in what way??!? Because of her E?

Morg herself present sno threat to Ahri since Ahri so easily avoids all her damage. Morg doesn't threaten Ahri at all.

Pantheon shits on Ahri in every stage, unless she's stupid-fed,

No he doesn't. He cant get close to Ahri to Q her withotu getting harassed himself and Ahrtis sustain means he will go oom before he can all in. If he tries to go on in, his short range W means it will get cannceled by her E and he will get spanked in retaliation. And again, she can and will just R away even if she does somehow get W'd.

In what universe does Path counter Ahri?

Ryze isn't good right now, but his P+C CC is pretty crazy on her, too,

Except no because especially after his W nerf, he cant keep ahri still for long enough to hit her with anything. The best eh can hope to do is just clear waves til lane phase is over.

Swain's too tanky for her to kill,

Swain cant do shit to her unless he Lands his W which Ahri has too many ways to avoid. Once Ahri gets heritem 3165 , Swain cant do shit. Th best he can do is rush item 3065 and hope to go even.

Veigar is a supposed counter alongside Leblanc (but I've never had problems against them, so I'm not too sure about that),

That is because they both aren't and dont lol.

Ahri just Q's to avoid Leblancs Passive proc and Ahri never has to get close to Veigar for him to properly retaliate with E. Additionally, again, Ahri just E's leblanc if and when she jumps in.

Yasuo also seems made to counter her. That's 17 different champions she struggles against, most, if not all, being viable midlaners.

Not really. Yasuo doesnt "beat" ahri in lane unless the ahri is being needleslsy agro instead of just hangign back and Qing all day. Yasuo cant all in her because she will just R away back to her inner tower. and he cant easily get to her without getting kited to oblivion by her E and Q. Even if he manages to windwall it , by the time he gets to her, they are at her tower and he cant do much.

And, yes, these are all match ups I have personally found to be extremely difficult. And I main Ahri.

That speaks more of your ability with Ahri than anything.

A common theme I see with this list though is you list mostly champs that DONT get dumpstered by Ahri as opposed to champs that str8 up dumpster her. I find it a tad telling.

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

Akali sticks far better. And you can't ult away from an assassin that recharges her dashes 10 seconds faster than you, and isn't forced to use all 3 at once.

Fizz avoids then deletes Ahri

Except Kat ins and outs faster than Superman on Wonder Woman. No human has that reaction time. And that's ignoring that Kat's usually smart enough to hide behind a minion.

Talon's poke goes out almost instantly. Sure, it's rather easy to dodge the second hit. But you have as much of a chance of dodging an auto attack as dodging the first Q.

Annie can just do what she always does: Stun-drop Tibbers. That's half of Ahri's health gone instantly. At least.

Pantheon just jumps on her and instadeletes her.

Morgana clears better than Ahri and only has to land one Q.

I could continue to point out everything else wrong, but I'll just summarize:

  • Ahri's sustain is pathetic until late-game. You'd get more sustain out of a Doran's blade. (Not to mention its mana costs alone. 150 mana at minimum to charge it, then you have to Q a large wave)
  • Point and Click CC has always been, and always will be, the counter to slippery champions without invincibility of some kind. Which is exactly what Ahri i.s
  • Ahri's ult has a cooldown longer than many similar abilities. She can't just escape every single situation. And, if she does, she loses all of her killing potential
  • READ THE ABOVE AS: SHE CAN'T ULT OUT OF EVERYTHING
  • Her Q isn't Fizz's Trickster. It has a cast time, and you can't avoid things that reach you before it finishes casting.
  • And, for the love of god, Ahri can't Q at point-blank AND hit the return without ulting or charming. Period. She either sacrifices up to 3/5 of its damage, or she gives the opponent time to dodge.
Kukan Seishin3 votes

"Asking for nerfs without giving ideas is whining." - The one smart person on these boards

Hyperiön2 votes

20% pickrate isn't every game. nice try.

nachocheeseeeee2 votes

Umm can't certain champions fuck her up hard in lane? A good LeBlanc, Katarina, Zed, Fizz, Yasuo, Annie, Lissandra, Syndra, Morgana, Malzahar should do well against her.

SilentBomber1 votes

It's true Ahri got a low cd on ultimate no?That allows her to farm really safe no?

DuskDaUmbreon2 votes

Not that low. Ekko's is about 5s less, I believe. If not on paper, then in practice.

Blåbæret1 votes

Ahri mains downvoting.

Rákãñ1 votes

Eh? I look through your match history and I don't see Ahri in every game. =/

lolipopevelynn1 votes

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Can we just nerf her? Just do it.

not mines, cuz i perma ban her.

Blåbæret1 votes

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not mines, cuz i perma ban her.

Good call. I suppose I should do the same thing.

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