Fizz e is everything you need in one move

Rozair·Jan 20, 2016·10 votes·749 views

How is it considered healthy. It's cooldown is so stupid low everyone says it's high but it's not it's 6 seconds. It's a slow an escape high damage a gap closer a wall jumper an aoe minion killer a dodge and invulnerable. Seriously it might as well heal him too because that's the only thing it doesn't do.

Riot: hey that's a great idea let's add that to it

Like seriously I have no problem with his insane amount of damage or everything else unhealthy about his kit but this one move is just absurd. It shouldn't even do damage it's that good. Please do something to take away from the utility this one move has

17 Comments

Supreme Senpai69Jan 20, 20165 votes

Trying to catch him without CC? E. He's safe. Gonna ult him? E. He's safe. Trying to run? E. You're dead. Trying to push a wave? E, the wave is now gone. Goin in for a poke? E, 25% of your HP is gone. You're probably ulted and ignited too. You managed to burn his flash, he's killin you, and you flash over a wall? E. Wasted your flash.

QuephaJan 21, 20165 votes

Fizz's E doing everything is part of what keeps him balanced. If he wants to burst you he has to spend the cooldown he wants to save on a defensive steroid. If he has to use it to dodge an ability then he can't use it to clear a wave. If he clears a wave then he's very vulnerable for the next few seconds.

If his waveclear was moved to his Q, then he could clear the wave and still have the troll pole ready for any danger, he'd basically have no window of vulnerability.

FioraWillCarryJan 21, 20161 votes

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If he wants to burst you he has to spend the cooldown he wants to save on a defensive steroid. If he has to use it to dodge an ability then he can't use it to clear a wave. If he clears a wave then he's very vulnerable for the next few seconds.y.

...For the next 4 seconds [slayer-jinx-unamused]

QuephaJan 21, 20162 votes

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...For the next 4 seconds [slayer-jinx-unamused]

still more than zero.

Hayaishi2Jan 20, 20163 votes

If it does damage it shouldn't slow. Why does a champion with 2 gap closers and a hard CC ultimate need a slow?

Or remove it's damage because Fizz's kit has an excess of damage already.

Dominick DestineJan 20, 20163 votes

I would be fine with them just increasing the cooldown to about 16 seconds.

It's an incredibly powerful skill... it should not be up every few seconds.

KING ATTILAJan 21, 20161 votes

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I would be fine with them just increasing the cooldown to about 16 seconds.

It's an incredibly powerful skill... it should not be up every few seconds.

8 sec.

ShonjlJan 21, 20161 votes

Let's be real here, while I am not on the Fizz hate train, its not 8 seconds. All Fizz's get some CDR. And with CDR it goes down to about 4.5-6 seconds. Thats pretty damn low for such a move, to put it into perspective, the dreaded Riven people used to cry about a lot barely beats it, and none of her 4 dashes gave her immunity to damage as well as half health you in a single hit

PennsJan 20, 20163 votes

Its healthy because he can use it like 3-4 times before having to go back mid game I guess.

DunkinNoobsJan 21, 20163 votes

You realize having so much of his kits power budget locked up in 1 skill is a weakness, not a strength right?

RozairJan 21, 20161 votes

Oh righr cuz having a Swiss army knife in one move is a weakness.

DunkinNoobsJan 21, 20162 votes

That's now what I said. I said having so much of his power budget in 1 move is a weakness. His E is his largest source of immediate burst, his waveclear, his escape tool, his gapcloser, his slow, and his outplay ability, all on 1 button. It's an extremely versatile ability but you can realistically only use it for 1 of 2 of these things at a time. Use E to clear a wave and you're now extremely vulnerable until it's back up again because your escape, gap closer, and outplay ability are now all unavailable. Likewise, if you use your E as an escape, you can't use its damage. If you use it as a gap closer, you often can't use its damage either.

RozairJan 21, 20161 votes

9 times out of 10 he uses it after he used his q to get in and is dodging your abilities then slams down to do damage. It needs a much longer cooldown. Every time there is a fizz in a game he gets fed and even if he doesn't he is still useful no matter what. You can kill him 10 times once he gets a lichbane he is viable much like vayne with blade of the ruined king. Even a bad player playing fizz cab win in a trade. Even magic resist seems to do nothing against him because his damage is so ridiculously high

Cowgirl EdJan 20, 20161 votes

Fizz is really annoying, agree

Topless IreliaJan 21, 20161 votes

If he can instantly kill ADCs that's fine with me

J EevoJan 21, 20161 votes

What's funny is, rest of his kit was nerfed so if you want to deal damage you now put points into E over Q (since Q got nerfed into shit) thus he caps out the cd sooner than before.