We get it, removing Normals Draft over Blind Pick stinks. But we all forgot one thing...

Athenes Lulu·Nov 10, 2016·3 votes·861 views

New players.

No matter how much Riot actually likes or hates Blind Pick since it promotes anti-teamwork and toxicity, they can't get rid of it. What will happen to the newer players and pre-30's in which most of them have less than 16 available champs? With the increase to 10 bans, players will have to have at least 20 champs available to play, and with Blind Pick gone, these guys have nowhere else to go other than Bots. And we also know how horrid IP gains are in bots...

To put it short, keeping Blind Pick is not just for the sake of having a mode for faster queues, but also for the sake of newer players. Unless we increase free champion rotation to 20 champions, there's no way Riot can get rid of Blind Pick.

15 Comments

EndlessSorcererNov 10, 20164 votes

Unlock the thirteen 450 IP champions for all players.
Remove the 450 IP champions from the free rotation.

Now, new players have a small pool of options to choose from when trying to learn the game and all accounts will have at least 23 champions available at all times.

It can be that simple.

SlythionNov 10, 20163 votes

the only argument: "but my aram-only accounts!!!11!1!"

response: "you're a terrible person and no one cares about your aram-cheese accounts so go away"

there, now we can move on with your amazing idea

Athenes LuluNov 10, 20161 votes

Or this, how come arams don't have ALL champions unlocked?

SlythionNov 10, 20161 votes

yet another brilliant improvement to league! it stops players from cheating the system and makes aram a true random champion gamemode as (imo) it should've always been

the weeabooNov 10, 20161 votes

{quoted}

Unlock the thirteen 450 IP champions for all players.

Remove the 450 IP champions from the free rotation.

Now, new players have a small pool of options to choose from when trying to learn the game and all accounts will have at least 23 champions available at all times.

Yes. Just make all the 450 champs free. And remove the 15 champ cap.

OglafNov 10, 20161 votes

{quoted}

Unlock the thirteen 450 IP champions for all players.

Remove the 450 IP champions from the free rotation.

Now, new players have a small pool of options to choose from when trying to learn the game and all accounts will have at least 23 champions available at all times.

It can be that simple.

^This. Such a simple and inexpensive solution, really.

Athenes LuluNov 10, 20161 votes

If Riot really plans on making any champions free (in which they really should), then something like this would have been done already. Even post-rework Poppy isn't that difficult to play as either.

Though the funny thing is even after playing League for like 4 years, I still has yet to own Nunu and Warwick.

EndlessSorcererNov 10, 20161 votes

I only purchased Warwick a few months ago (and I've been playing for four years now).

I only really purchased him because I was randomly in the mood to play him.

SlythionNov 10, 20161 votes

I only bought Ashe recently because my friend plays a lot of her and that way we can trade.

imo, poppy wouldn't be that easy (in comparison to other champions) due to her wall stun mechanics + "charge for power" mechanics (ult) + her unique "block dash" part of her kit which is all fairly complicated in comparison to like...Garen where the only thing truly technical about him is his "villain" mechanic which, to a new player, only rewards them for hitting the right champion which is still fairly easy to comprehend

MimyNov 10, 20162 votes

these guys have nowhere else to go other than Bots.

Perhaps it's for the best. Pre-Level 30 games are flooded with toxicity, Smurfs, and banned players. It is NOT an environment for NEW PLAYERS

They're driving a good portion of our new players away, and it's probably better for new players to stay in Bots for just a little bit longer anyways.

I didn't PVP till I was level 15, back before the rune price reduction and EXP reduction.

#That means it took me about a MONTH of bots before I even touched PVP....

Now it takes about a month to get 30... Which basically PROMOTES Smurfing.

Making them wait a little longer before jumping into the cesspool of toxicity would probably help them.

"But what about people making Smurfs and Alts!"

They have level 30 accounts, and or Blew it. Their falt.

it would be more healthy for the smurfs to CO-OP vs AI with new people because they have no reason to RAGE at new people because they can SOLO CARRY BOTS. So why would they care if new people can't play up to their standards...

In PVP if a new person messes up thinking "Oh were all new here" THEY GET FLAMED TO HELL BY ALL THE SMURFS!

I honestly believe lower levels would be all around healthier without PVP.

Athenes LuluNov 10, 20162 votes

I'm more concerned on the grind for IP in bots, though your reasoning is correct. In fact, many people started playing PvP pre-30 in hopes of better IP farms, and I used to be one of them as well.

I would be glad to advocate for better IP gains in bots or even cheaper champions in IP costs.

MimyNov 10, 20161 votes

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I would be glad to advocate for better IP gains in bots or even cheaper champions in IP costs.

This.. would actually be good... because the hardcore smurfs can easily get the champions required quickly.. while the new players have a little extra time to learn before... being thrown under a buss... xD

MrNhbdyNov 10, 20161 votes

Sadly you are right about the reaction to new players below 30, however I believe bots do not actually help players out as much as real opponents. Intermediate bots are the hardest difficulty, yet oppose a significantly lless threat then a human player. Certain things in a bot game are also unnecessary, but in a pvp game they can be crucial. One good example is warding.

The way the system is okay, the community just needs to be more understanding.

RogueWillNov 10, 20161 votes

Well considering League Currently have 125+ champions you could give the player 16 "free" champs for hitting level 30 and now you can get rid of the blind pick