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Guess I have to quit

Dukues··5 votes·1,270 views

Guess I am just done I have never seen anything like this. Played since season 1, ranked since season 2. Never have had 39% win rate after 76 games or w/e. Just beyond tilted at this point. I don't understand how I can outperform the other laner/jungler/etc. in 75% of my games and still lose almost all of them. I have never seen anything like it, I am in a lower elo than my actual skill, and yes I know my fucking rank and how to play the fucking game at that level. This is the most 1 sided dumb fucking bullshit I have ever seen. I have never seen such terrible unlucky mming. Now I have to sit and reflect on how I can do better.... when literally my current play was fine in preseason, past seaons and fuck it even on other accounts lmfao. LIke... what in the honest fuck Riot.

I should have never played this fucking season and waited until fall to just get auto put into gold even though I havent played in months like so many other lazy assholes do. Didnt think it would be a problem having gold 2 mmr in fucking 2 queues and on multiple accounts a now getting stomoped by fucking silver kids. Well let me rephrase that... my team getting stomped by fucking silver kids.

Don't think I have ever hated this game so much as I do right now. Stupidest fucking part is if you guys actually like nerfed damage I would probably be climbing to plat since I can do more than just fucking 2 shot people but that will never happen because of the .001% so now I have to try and figure out how to have fun being stuck playing fucking tanks in a boring meta becuase my cc +insane fucking dmg with not actual dmg items is better than actually playing the game in this god afwul elo. This is so fucking stupid.

Riot has failed me. To anyone believing there is a forced 50% win rate stop lying to yourselves. If there was I would be able to go afk at this point and get 10 free wins, but that is not the case at all. That and the fact I have played many seasons and it is possible to have high win rates..... just have to be better than othres. Honestly last 3 seasons I havent even had less than 50% win rate lmfao and usually more like 53-54% because I stop playing once I mid gold or idk just for whatever reason.

I don't need advice just need this game to stop fucking dicking me.

16 Comments

Leylania4 votes

I am in a lower elo than my actual skill,

You've been in high silver/low gold for 5 seasons in a row, what makes you think that you deserve anything better if you never climbed higher than that?

SangreDeNoche1 votes

{quoted}

You've been in high silver/low gold for 5 seasons in a row, what makes you think that you deserve anything better if you never climbed higher than that?

Judging from their post it's this

even on other accounts lmfao

Although that could imply they're having trouble climbing there too. I read it to mean they got higher on those accounts but can't make this one do the same which I've heard other players complain about. (Including a dude in challenger who said last season he had his original account still stuck in silver because he couldn't get allies to cooperate.)

Dukues1 votes

{quoted}

You've been in high silver/low gold for 5 seasons in a row, what makes you think that you deserve anything better if you never climbed higher than that?

well seeing as im silver 2 playing silver players and I have been mid gold last 2 seasons with gold 2 mmr in both flex/solo/duo during preseason and on multiple accounts and ranked in at least top 20% of players and now current in what top 45%? I would say I am not exactly at my elo wouldn't you? Which in the last 2 seasons I have never had less than 50% win rate on any account in a higher elo than I am yet am still dropping below 40% in a lower elo? like.... think about that for a second you idiot lmfao.

Telosen4 votes

First of all stop playing Shyvana. what the fuck are you doing? She has virtually no CC. CC wins games in low elo. She is a melee auto-attacker without any cc, AND she has skillshots. She's the definition of a bad low elo champion. She is only considered an S tier low elo champ because she farms circles around anyone in the game. Her farming speed is likely the only thing keeping you in high silver instead of lower. But what good is huge farm gold if you don't do anything with it? It's clear you don't know how to carry because your match history is full of losses where you were really fed. Get more game knowledge, more macro knowledge, and more mechanics and then come back to Shyvana.

Second of all stop playing so many fucking roles. Don't play ADC unless you really like it and don't mind losing. It takes the longest time investment to get good, and it's also the biggest factor in whether a team wins or loses. This just makes things harder when more is on your shoulders.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oDE6pjVpIoo

Look at videos like this. LS particularly lists which champions are good at which elo and in some cases he explains why. For example Annie is overpowered at every elo but especially low elo. She's easy, she deletes people, and she's a good team fighter, which is 90% of the game in silver. They play the game like it's ARAM or something.

Play junglers with CC and camp bot. Bot is worth the most gold on the map and is the most important role in deciding games.

Also don't fucking queue with other people. This changes your MMR whether you win or lose, and can often be for the worse. If you find someone you win a lot with, you're probably getting carried. Otherwise you're just making the game harder. Duo queue puts worse people on your team because the system expects you and your voice chat duo buddy to be able to carry the other 3 people.

Dukues1 votes

Honestly last thing I need to hear right now is macro shit it literally fucking pointless right now. I mean its not but.... I have better macro skills than people I am playing with or against right now so it's fucking irrelevant. Literally most cc wins and that's all that has mattered for my last 77 games. Idk.... shyv was fun.... fucking get super far ahead feel like doing great then realize everyone around me has no idea how to play the game and im not just a cc/tank monster so can't win team fights. Before season this wouldnt hvae been a problem, but apparently all the people I used to play with who had some game sense are gone. The amount of playres over ranked right now in low elo is incredible.

lmfao and like people going to give me shit for switiching roles yet I can look through match history of everyone in my games and they all doing it too.... yet enemy always getting wins. Seen so many cucks this season ranked to gold or be placed in it who the fuck knows at this point with 52% or higher win rates over hundreds of games spamming differnet champs having terrible cs scores/k/d/a, etc. yet winning at least 50% of their games. Wish I was making it up but its true and quite tilting to see when I can't even buy a win.

Yea Im done jungling. Did that shit last season not doing it again with the only playing cc to win through silver or w/e. Its dumb.... its stupid how well it works, guess I just go back to mid and hope one day I get on a win streak. Easier to spam games in other roles. But to be honest probs just fucking done for a few months, where i can come back literally cold turkey and just stomp the fucking shitters who either fall from ranks or w/e when people are back to where they actually belong instead of w/e the fuck this shit is right now.

Rank up quick, then just quit playing agian because once again season ruined to stupid fucking matching making placement bullshit.

Telosen1 votes

By the way placements will always put you lower than what you ended. If you placed Diamond 5 you will place Plat 2-4. If you ended a season at gold 4 or gold 5 you can go 10-0 in placements and still get put in Silver 1.

I just spectated your Zed game. Even if you switched with Ahri and chose Teleport over Ignite as a top laner, why the fuck did you go Fleet Footwork? I saw multiple times that game where when you ulted someone, Electrocute would have killed them.

Also I'm not sure you play Zed since I didn't see any Zed games this year in your history (I don't see any Zed games in your history for the past 4 seasons...), but switching champions or playing too many champions also holds people back. And no offense, but even if yo u are a gold level zed player, i saw no mechanics in that game that made me think your Zed was anything above Silver 3.

Most Diamond players play only one to three champions exclusively, and only two roles. Most Master players play 5 champions only. Basically, a players' skill is directly correlated with how well they play a given amount of champions. It's no surprise that Professional players are challenger players that can play any champion their coaches tell them to learn, since at that point they are strictly better players than regular SoloQ challengers (who also tend to only play a few champs).

Pick champions you like and play them and only them. Even when the matchup is bad.

EDIT:

In season 7 you played 62 different champions at least once.

In season 6 you played 46 different champions at least once.

In season 5 you played 57 different champions at least once.

In season 4 you played 56 different champions at least once.

See my point? If you had picked 5 champions and played only them for these past 6+ years you would be diamond or above. Every time you play a random champion willy nilly is just more time wasted. You don't get experience on those champions, and all you do is guarantee a loss for your team mates.

Dukues1 votes

Hahaa damn dude I appreciate you looking into this but I instantly laughed out loud when you said I watched your zed game. LIke... of all the games to watch haha :(. LIke yea I don't really play zed and was just mad at felt like trolling, which obviously is a terrible thing to do if you want to win. I guess I just assumed If I didn't pick him someone else would and didn't feel like playing verse him, plus we already Ahri top and how so many of my recent games had went I just assumed we were fucked because we had no tanks for cc for late game fights and that is basically all that has mattered in like 90% of the recent games. I also didn't have a rune page setup and didn't know what runes to go so obviously just had a terrible page setup, which felt really poor.

Well a lot of those champ picks in the past generally came from playing like 3v3 or 5v5 flex like last season. Ok... not a lot but some. I get the main a few champs thing I really do... but I am someone who can't play 500 games on a few champs and still want to play this game. I have also never cared about getting diamond level with a few champs. To me being gold has really seemed more just like knowing a lot of the basics of the game and my champ, not being anywhere close to pro on anything and is why I have not really been that worried about playing different roles and champs. LIke if I was consistently stomped I would switch roles, champs, or stop playing it, but that hasn't really been the case. Biggest problem this season is just throwing leads in late game team fights. Someone literally told me "why are you playing Shyvana in your elo she has no cc", and honestly they are absolutely right. Games right now in my elo are so much decided on late game fights and who can cc the enemy team longest early game hasn't felt like it mattered at all unless you have 3 lanes snowballing then maybe the game ends before 30 mins lmfao (silver/gold wooo!).

I just don't really like where Riot is taking this game. I really do like the LCS and watching games and I know they have to balance game around high elo. But I just feel the discrepancy in champions between elos grows larger and larger every season and it makes the game depressing. Like I personally love Graves jungle, but have no where the mechanics to play him right now in his current state. Now you watch high elo players pay him, he looks like a super fine champ. You watch people in my games play him you wonder why he even a champion. They also nerfed the shit out of Gragas since he was in every LCS like all of season 7 and I mained him last season. So now playng him feels really underwhelming compared to other champions, although right now I would love to go back to maining him. I probably could and maybe I will but just feels like such a large hurtle to climb and feels easier to just pick up a more current meta champion.

I also just really dislike the current low elo meta. I am sick of tanks being so damn important, I am sick of them dealing insane damage. I also am sick of bot lanes having such a large advantage compared to other roles. I miss when bruiser/farm jungle champions were meta because there felt like more skill involved in the jungle role (at least in low elo) and that I could actually try to out play my opponent rather than just try and gank as much as possible for my teammates and hope they good enough to carry while I peel for them all game as season 7 & now 8 have felt in low elo jungle.

I will read over what you said but fuck man really sorry you wasted time watching that game. I got rofl stomped playing a champ I know I am no good at haha and don't plan to play in the future in solo/duo ranked games.

Telosen1 votes

You complain about bad teammates but in that Zed game, from your teammates point of view, you were the guy trolling them. The only way to get away from the 'bad teammate' phase is to be consistent in your play, and try to win every game. You're the only person you have control of in a match. If it feels like every game is lost because of things outside your control, it's probably you that's the reason.

For example I used to be a Jungler who farmed too much, and I farmed too much because back in season 3 I used to gank too much and not farm at all, so this new style was a reaction to my old errors. I would only gank when the ganks were easy, otherwise I would powerfarm. And I would still lose even though I had more gold than anyone. I lost because my lanes were under too much pressure from other lanes or the jungler Once I started ganking lanes even when it wasn't an easy or free gank, my games started to get easier. I realized that I was that 'useless jungler who doesn't gank' and I changed it.

And you, like most people, also need to realize that even if you're fed you can still lose. The most important parts of being fed is protecting the lead and pushing your advantage because otherwise what's the point of being fed if you're not throwing your weight around? This means not dying. If you're fed and you die, the enemy team gets 450 extra gold on top of the gold you're worth normally. They get 300G for killing you, 150G for assisting in your death, and everyone gets 90G for you dying. That's 900 gold you just gave the enemy by dying while you're fed. Turrets are only worth 750 Gold. Think about that.

As for finding champs to play, just play champs that are similar to the ones that got gutted. Sejuani is still pick or ban, and she fulfils the exact same purpose as Gragas. She does magic damage. She can jump over walls to gank or counter jungle. She has a lot of CC. She has 2 stuns, a knockup, and a slow in her kit. She gets tanky as fuck. If you like Gragas so much, why didn't you play Sejuani? For me, I only play Divers or Assassins, which is why I main Xin, Talon, and Khazix. I realized that my 3 mains were all physical, so I started playing Ekko since he's a mage and a diver/assassin. I played Ekko for about 50 games in normals before I started using him in Ranked, and I still don't think my Ekko is ready for ranked so I won't use him unlesS Xin or Kha are banned/taken. But the point is that any time you play a ranked game and you don't try hard (this includes playing your best champions), you don't have the right to complain.

Dukues1 votes

{quoted}

You complain about bad teammates but in that Zed game, from your teammates point of view, you were the guy trolling them. The only way to get away from the 'bad teammate' phase is to be consistent in your play, and try to win every game. You're the only person you have control of in a match. If it feels like every game is lost because of things outside your control, it's probably you that's the reason.

I used to believe this but season 8 has made me realize what complete bullshit that is. Someone doesn't just get a tier worse at a game they have played for 9 years over fucking night. Fuck anyone who even thinks that's possible.

For example I used to be a Jungler who farmed too much, and I farmed too much because back in season 3 I used to gank too much and not farm at all, so this new style was a reaction to my old errors. I would only gank when the ganks were easy, otherwise I would powerfarm. And I would still lose even though I had more gold than anyone. I lost because my lanes were under too much pressure from other lanes or the jungler Once I started ganking lanes even when it wasn't an easy or free gank, my games started to get easier. I realized that I was that 'useless jungler who doesn't gank' and I changed it.

Yea... I have to play jungle worse to win is basically what it comes down to. Can't assume your teammates even know what they abilities are.... spam ganks.... just assume enemy never sees you coming, #profit. It works, its dumb, I hate this fucking game for making me play with the game knowledge and skill level of a fresh new player because assuming I would still be playing with the same people I was for months changed over fucking night. God fucking damnit.

And you, like most people, also need to realize that even if you're fed you can still lose.

Huh weird..... never knew that. O wait.... yea I did. Difference being whether I am fed or not I almost always lose. Its gotten to the point where I am literally our only hope 80% of my games. Never seen anything like this in all of the seasons I have played. I miss being able to actually just play the game around my team but now its basically all on my shoulders, clear every wave, pick the fights, choose the objectives, split push, but always be witht he team. LIke literally no one can even do fucking anything basic anymore its so fucking stupid. Then god forbid I die game auto over. Every fucking game. Literally every fucking game. Not he 4-15 ryze mid for the other team. He can die 15 FUCKING TIMES AND STILL GET W'S BUT GOD FUCKING FORBID I DIE.

As for finding champs to play, just play champs that are similar to the ones that got gutted. Sejuani is still pick or ban, and she fulfils the exact same purpose as Gragas. She does magic damage.

Well right there goes against "play who you want" philosophy that people such as Riot try to promote. yet we all know its BS and its just getting worse. How about this how about I would rather quit this game than play Sejuani ? Does that seem like fair alternatives?

Have yet to see anyone say they enjoy this season much less that Riot is making the game better. A lot of jokes about "haha 1 shot" but nothing actually saying people enjoy that style. A lot of threads on boards/reddit about "stomp or be stomped" games. Which oddly I am not even seeing anymore its more just forced 35 min games and then game just ending in one team fight but it makes sense seeing how low my mmr has dropped. So now I have to try and not fall asleep for 35 mins and hope to not fuck up in a game ending team fight.

Dukues1 votes

LOL u fucking talking to me like I've never been a higher rank. Like dude I am not trying to be fucking plat I am talking fucking gold.... A FUCKING RANK I HAVE BEEN ON 3 ACCOUNTS THE LAST 2 SEASONS WITH GOLD 2/3 MMR. THIS NOT FUCKING ROCKET SCIENCE. Like I know what fuckng champs are good and you have no idea how fucking boring these games are playing with people I shouldn't have to play with. I dont know y it so hard for riot to just take you fucking ending preseason mmr and just drop to xxx rank based on # of people placed and just skip this stupid fucking pot luck they call placements. Would make this game not fucking terrible every time season reset.

Support Boyyy2 votes

OMG, I just played a game with you, you were Shyvana I think, and I was either Zyra or Janna.

lol anyways, you suck

[slayer-jinx-wink]

2Charmnot2Charm1 votes

Why am i not surprised it's the janna main saying something like this.

Dukues2 votes

[{quoted}](name=Support Boyyy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1EyJlU7t,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-10T02:51:08.586+0000)

OMG, I just played a game with you, you were Shyvana I think, and I was either Zyra or Janna.

lol anyways, you suck

[slayer-jinx-wink]

LOL. Well seeing as I haven't played with or against a good person since preseason I guess I know where that puts you as well. Well shout out to my Galio few games ago we should have won that 4v5 dude was a beast, only good player I have played with in weeks.

Dukues1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Support Boyyy,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=1EyJlU7t,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2018-03-10T02:51:08.586+0000)

OMG, I just played a game with you, you were Shyvana I think, and I was either Zyra or Janna.

lol anyways, you suck

[slayer-jinx-wink]

0-5 Janna pro herself. Damn dude teach me your ways.

Ragnaveil1 votes

They wont curtail the meta to whatever you want it. Sure, the tank meta is boring, uninteresting, and annoying, but lets look back to the preseason before the tank update. People, and I mean many people, said tanks were useless as all hell, and you can only use them if you have a team (basic summary, I could be wrong). Bruisers were crushing the living hell out of tanks with very good defensive stats, Riot saw that and addressed that, now those changes haven't been countered with for a good 2 years, making it seems like forever that it has been a tank meta toplane. However, the new bruiser keystone is one step in the right direction, however, I do think it will need some work in the future at some point. One of my favorite bruisers I use to play a crud ton of was Renekton, and I remember the day I legit had to put him down for other champs, and that was due to the kit being unfavorable slightly, but also his scaling. Nasus got changes to his basic ultimate so that it really feels like a tide turning ultimate, however, Ren's is still a sunfire cape that grants fury on cast, periodicly, and bigger size (just like nasus). I feel like if they want to keep the kit relatively the same, they should do something like nasus with his ult, and make it have some interaction with his spells (like how nasus gets 50% cdr on Q in ult form)

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