I don't know what's up with the grading system, but getting an S- for this, while getting an A for a game in which I played out of my mind, is a bit ridiculous.
Mouth Stuff36 votesI went 35/5/27 with 150cs as jungler ww and got an a-
Oelyk4 votesSounds like your farm was ass if you got that many kills, or something.... CS per min etc..
Chembaron Yamada4 votesThis. With so many kills, I would assume the game took 40-50 minutes. In that time, he should have at least 200-250 farm.
Succeedsawce3 votesOr he's full of shit.
SlashStriker11 votes[{quoted}](name=Lazy cat,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=183FcVQW,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2017-05-21T06:16:05.072+0000)
Sounds like your farm was ass if you got that many kills, or something.... CS per min etc..
35 kills bro he was farming champions
ImTheSideKick1 votesthe grading system is based on the player base, if he got this great score while he was new (reworked new) and op and EVERY one was getting amazing scores that just means his S grades was insanely high
every time any ones scores high it makes it slightly harder to score as high or higher same in reverse every time some one scores badly it lowers the difficulty to score high
clearly ALOT of people have been playing ekko p*** poor lately and thus 4/4/7 was considered great
Jbels21 votesThe grading system is pretty much just RNG at this point. I had a game where I went 31/4/insert however many fucking assists I got here with 204 CS at about 30 minutes I believe on Ahri. A+. Never mind the fact that I don't play her regularly at all, and that I completely smashed that game wide open.
Ralanr14 votesIt's meant to compare against other people.
Honestly this makes it very frustrating because we don't know the other scores to beat.
Tensec22 votes91-0 xerath ofc
Succeedsawce1 votesThe grading system is pretty much just RNG at this point. I had a game where I went 31/4/insert however many fucking assists I got here with 204 CS at about 30 minutes I believe on Ahri. A+. Never mind the fact that I don't play her regularly at all, and that I completely smashed that game wide open.
You mean this game where you're 21*-4 with 204 cs at 41 minutes? That's actually bad, and you don't deserve an S.
The game grades you based on GPM, objective participation, and ward control. What it takes to >>consistently<< win and more specifically climb. Not Kda. Just because you don't understand this, and don't know how to do these things, doesn't make the grading system trash.
It's actually a damn good system, that rewards you for playing to win.
Jbels2 votesYou mean this game where you're 21*-4 with 204 cs at 41 minutes? That's actually bad, and you don't deserve an S.
The game grades you based on GPM, objective participation, and ward control. What it takes to >>consistently<< win and more specifically climb. Not Kda. Just because you don't understand this, and don't know how to do these things, doesn't make the grading system trash.
It's actually a damn good system, that rewards you for playing to win.
Oh was it 21? Was it really that long? Jesus. Yeah you're right, I don't deserve that S, HOWEVER. In one of my Recent Zac games, I went 8 and 4 and get an S or S-. Explain THAT to me. And a Darius game where I went 5 and 1 and got an S, explain that
BBQChicken Alert8 votesJust go support and try not to die. That's the easiest way to get an S.
Nightshade Rose1 votesIf you want to get S for support and if you don't then you're screwd right?
BBQChicken Alert6 votesPretty much. I find that it's more consistent to get an S in the support role than it is any other.
Tensec4 votesyeah cuz no other role has as many autofilled feeders
mrgiraffeweevil6 votesAnd it doesn't account for cs, which is the killer of S ranks
Erractic Eick1 votesThis guy knows what he's talking about. There are so few of us support mains that the bar for the average is quite low.
DoktorKaiser1 votesNo thats the 2. easiest way to get S. The easiest, by fucking far, UNLESS you need it on a strong early game jungler, is to go jungle and farm all day long, I literally got S+ on Amumu with 1 0 0 score and 8.5 farm/min , not to mention playing something retarded like Viktor jungle (before the season 7 jungle, I doubt he would survive now) or Nasus or Mundo or Yorick all games were easy S+ just for farming properly and ofc your team has to carry your ass :D
Nightshade Rose1 voteswell another way is to play unpopular champions, since their pickrate is low their high scores are easyer to achieve because of less competition.
DunkinNoobs8 votesGame time matters. A ton. The longer the game goes, the more outrageous stats you need to get in order to receive that S rank.
DoktorKaiser1 votesThat is not really true, while it is true for farm, if enemy team surrenders before minute 25 it fucks your grades in the ass, unless you have like 15 out of 19 kills that your team has.
DunkinNoobs1 votesI've gone something like 2/0/9 on Leona in a 20 minutes win and gotten S. It's even easier on champs that farm, provided you farm well.
DoktorKaiser2 votesI dont know man, when enemy team surrenders as early as possible I always get A+ max, maybe sometimes S-
Dasdi967 votesI remember this 1 game I got an a+ for going 0/1/1 on sejuani jungle.
A Basic Island1 votesYou got it based on effort c:
Chembaron Yamada6 votesNow I imagine a Rioter sitting in front of a screen watching these games and giving grades individually. And his one went: shrug "Ehh, he tried...." pushes A+ button.
Time Police Ekko2 votesBecause ekko is straight trash because all the little kids whined about him so going even with him is S worthy.
the weeaboo2 votes23/4/10 with 250 CS at 32 min with ADC
A+
Autrah Fang2 votes23/4/10 with 250 CS at 32 min with ADC
A+
earlier i went 10/9/12 on Varus with 244 cs at 39:59 minutes and got an S-
meanwhile i've seen/had games like the one you're describing and they get an A :|
WorksAtAGayBar1 votesI'm pretty sure you always get an S- or above when you win before 20 minutes.
Nightshade Rose12 votesYou don't.
DoktorKaiser1 votesI just dominated the game with a random dude who was ADC while I was supporting. We played amazingly well he was 8 0 0 and I was 0 1 8 when enemy team surrender at minute 15. He got S+, I got B- ... Fuck me right ?
Chembaron Yamada3 votesWell, you know, you dieded. How dare you.
TheScrubYouNeed1 votesi went 29/2/5 as yas and i only got an s- wtf
Arakadia1 votesThat means nothing. Your warding, cs, etc. counts too.
Targon1 votesA few days ago I played with a game with a toplane 
who fed an enemy 
. He managed to get a few last hits in team fights and ended with a score of 8/7/10 with 118CS at 27 min when we lost, and for some reason and got away with an S-.
Chembaron Yamada1 votesAnd now imagine what this means for the average Twisted Fate top lane.
Sammystorm1 votesIt is easier to get better grades for shorter games. Less people have as good as stats at 19 minutes especially. Grades look at cs, kills, deaths, assists per game length compared to every one else. Not many people have good stats at 19 minutes.
On a side note playing champs in off roles and doing well is an easy way to get S ranks.
Cavesloth3 votesActually i have a waaaaaay easier time getting an S on a long game, hands down. Most of the time if i'm close but don't get an s, its because the game didn't go long enough. I can tell you the NUMBER 1 thing people don't do is take jungle camps. Once you have 2 items built, start taking jungle camps. Nine times out of ten when someone doesn't get S, its because their CS was too low.
What people should be complaining about is when the guy whose fed has to afk farm jungle camps to get an S and its costs his team the game, because riots system for s requires ALOT of farm, not necessarily doing things that will win the game.
One thing that might help is a meter in-game which shows your grade if the game ends right there (the coding basically exists already, they just need a a visual to communicate it to you), and it shouldn't be that difficult to add. It may not tell you what your doing wrong exactly, but you could observe what nudges it the most one way or the other.
Now I do agree though Riot needs to be clear how things are weighted for s, they haven't communicated that clearly and the use the flimsy excuse that they are afraid if people know whats weighted more, it may lead to people being toxic and not trying to win, just trying to s, but that logic is flawed. Many people do things that won't make them win already, just because they believe it is what will get them an S. So the damage already exists, and revealing the proverbial man behind the curtain won't do more damage, and should do some good.
lightdragoon881 votesCan you give us the match history of both games?
It is not just KDA, but towers, dragons, Herald/Baron, and other stuff too.
The Deckowner1 votesCS>everything else tho.
lightdragoon881 votesTrue...but getting the last hit on a turret or a dragon can be the difference between an S- and an A+
RacoonHunter1 votesthe more popular a champion is, the harder you will get graded.. which is total bullshit imo.
Hyrum Graff1 votesWhat queue? I have found grades to be different between them.
JESUSSAYSNO1 votesI think objective contribution counts. if you were all over the map, the game tracks it.
OHminus1 votesI just went 420/0/69 on Urgoddd with 1.2748353289432 x 10^1337 cs at 20 min and I only got a fking B+. WTF RIOT?????
/s
TheGoomyGamer1 votesWhat role?
1 800 GGTOOEZ1 votesMid.
TheGoomyGamer1 votesThe most ekko mid players around ur MMR must suck Its not how good u do, its how good u do compared to other people in ur MMR
aqours fanboy1 votesKills and CS aren't the end all.
Wards placed? Destroyed? Objectives taken?