your opinion: the hardest champ to master in LoL?

Arammus·May 28, 2018·2 votes·3,106 views

in my opinion riven. i hate playing her, i hate seing her. but i know way too lot about her. the combos, the animation canceling etc.

imo riven is the hardest champ to master in LoL.

15 Comments

Morgy MorgyMay 28, 20184 votes

Rumble proper management of heat, using his ult correctly, it's an unforgiving learning process. Azir dont think this needs explanation Ekko having to keep track of what happened seconds ago and what is about to happen seconds from now is pretty hard to manage

ArammusMay 28, 20181 votes

i think rumbles ult is easy to use if you dont smartcast it. heat management can be annoying yeah.

i think azir mainly is so hard because he needs his team more than an adc does, while technically still playing the same.

i cant agree with ekko tho. i see ekkos just randomly jump in, one shot a squishy and then press r to easily escape

z63XnLCMwXMay 28, 20182 votes

Draven.

PhantomGGMay 28, 20182 votes

Gangplank Leblanc LeeSin Lulu Nidalee Orianna Riven Thresh Vayne Yasuo Zed Zoe

no particular order, just me going in abc order

as for why azir isn't oon this list? Honestly a lot of the skill he had to offer has been removed from him, and riot for the most part has madfe him into a pretty brain dead champ, basically at this point all he is, is a AP marksman with a gtfo shield.

Gutting his mobility and utility in favor of buffing his dps, just simply made him really brain dead and this is com ing from someone who adores azir.

CrestfallenNightMay 28, 20181 votes

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no particular order, just me going in abc order

as for why azir isn't oon this list? Honestly a lot of the skill he had to offer has been removed from him, and riot for the most part has madfe him into a pretty brain dead champ, basically at this point all he is, is a AP marksman with a gtfo shield.

Gutting his mobility and utility in favor of buffing his dps, just simply made him really brain dead and this is com ing from someone who adores azir.

Im so goddamn happy you included my Lulu there. The choice of her W can save or screw up. There's no in between. Also her Q for situations, and sometimes R to counter gap-closers.

Step Sis LuxMay 28, 20181 votes

AurelionSol idk its just hard to play against that many mobile champions Bard i dont think i have ever seen like really good bard player Riven i think she is cancer champions as fuck but she is also hard to play

CrestfallenNightMay 28, 20181 votes

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idk its just hard to play against that many mobile champions i dont think i have ever seen like really good bard player i think she is cancer champions as fuck but she is also hard to play

ASol... hmm, yeah, agree. Bard isn't as hard as he seems to be. He only needs to be at the right places at the right times. Riven, nope, she takes no skill and has 3/4 knockups + stun. LMFAO.

Step Sis LuxMay 28, 20181 votes

I know, i have like 50k bard but i never seen any good player XD RIven also idk i played like 3 times and i have no idea how to do something with her

RevaliMay 28, 20181 votes

Personally I think the easier characters are sometimes harder to master, as they require a lot of game knowledge to pull off more then bullshittin your way through w/ decent mechanics.

PopcornBunniMay 28, 20181 votes

Going to put it out there right now that it isn't Azir . He has a high skill cap, but not as high as others and his skill floor is limited to learning a single combo while having a play pattern consisting of nearly costless safe harass.

AurelionSol optimal range is finicky against any target with even a small amount of mobility, and mana management is a large issue

Zed Possibly among the highest skill caps even if his skill floor is made entirely of easy as shit poke

Since this is specifically about MASTERING, any combo-heavy and/or positional caster would be a good candidate too: Ryze Lissandra Viktor

My take by each class

Tank: Shen Lining up Q for proper trades and a very risky dash as his sole cc Fighter: Fiora , at least for now is like Riven with the addition of mana costs Assassin: Zed Mage: Ryze ADC: Kalista Support: Rakan "Unique": Nidalee . Gangplank is a contender as well, but I'd consider the harsh learning curve of switching forms at the right time much tougher than barrel management.

CrestfallenNightMay 28, 20181 votes

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Going to put it out there right now that it isn't . He has a high skill cap, but not as high as others and his skill floor is limited to learning a single combo while having a play pattern consisting of nearly costless safe harass.

optimal range is finicky against any target with even a small amount of mobility, and mana management is a large issue

Possibly among the highest skill caps even if his skill floor is made entirely of easy as shit poke

Since this is specifically about MASTERING, any combo-heavy and/or positional caster would be a good candidate too:

My take by each class

Tank: Lining up Q for proper trades and a very risky dash as his sole cc Fighter: , at least for now is like Riven with the addition of mana costs Assassin: Mage: ADC: Support: "Unique": . Gangplank is a contender as well, but I'd consider the harsh learning curve of switching forms at the right time much tougher than barrel management.

Shen? Hmm.. Not sure I can say skill, it's something else... But not everyone uses him easily, so kind of agree. Fiora? Haven't seen much Fiora, can't say. Zed? Nope. Just nope. He's way too rewarding, has gap closers, his ult makes him untargetable, etc. Ryze? Yes. Kalista? Yes. Rakan? Nope, way too save, dull champion. Nida? Hell yeah, and I would include Elise.

ThefrostyvikingMay 28, 20181 votes

Ashe

Because you have to deal with all the OP in the game with no burst, no mobility and only a somewhat decent AA range and the slows that most champs arent affected by anyhow.

Picking her up is easy, getting her to work in 8 outa 10 games might be impossible.

She even has a significant delay before her damage ramps up to boot.

CrestfallenNightMay 28, 20181 votes

No, not Riven. Not even Zed. They're all wayy too safe and rewarding.