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I'm on mobile so I can't show you the champion jpg:
Here is the do not play list for noobs:
Aurelion Sol Ryze Azir Zed Gangplank Rumble Cassiopeia Twisted Fate Jhin Kha'zix Annivia
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Jayce Riven Lee Sin Leblanc
There are probably other high skill cap champions, but this is what I came up with in 3 minutes.
420 grams1 votesMaster yi, xin, lux, Tristana, Alistar...
Yaśuo Main1 votesRyze is fairly easy, Anivia is the same, Khazix is not that hard nor GP, Cass even less, Twisted Fate same as Cass.
Srsly, how are these hard?
Doodlzzz1 votesGP is rlly hard for noobs, so is Cass and TF although Anivia is fairly easy to play
Yaśuo Main1 votesOk I understand GP a little bit and Cass, but TF has low skill floor abilities
Doodlzzz4 votesTf is heavily reliant on making good decisions and is extremely hard to play right even though his abilities seem simple on paper.
Yaśuo Main1 votesAlthough I'd argue that decision making and shot calling are skills of the player, and newbies are bad so that would make TF bad for newbiessss.....
Okay lol
Hallbuster1 votes[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0zrALvE4,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2017-06-10T16:28:39.335+0000)
Ryze is fairly easy, Anivia is the same, Khazix is not that hard nor GP, Cass even less, Twisted Fate same as Cass.
Srsly, how are these hard?
Any champion on my list can be played sufficiently, but not effectively especially in higher Elo's.
Ryze requires reflex in timing his combo's.
Annnivia's main source of damage on her Q is a skill shot, her utility: ice wall requires perfect timing.
Kha'zix relies on burst, quickly in and quickly out.
GP players spend months perfecting their barrels.
Cassiopeia is punished for missing her Q and can't do reliable damage without it.
TF requires a deep understanding of the game to be played in higher Elo's. Wave control is crucial when you play him.
Yaśuo Main1 votesRyze combo's take little to no reflexes as you need to only press 3 buttons in an order, W > E > Q
in and out aren't exactly hard unless attacking a group, which isn't Kha's usual goal
Anivia can stop the skill shot as it is not a Sol skill shot, the wall is barely used other than blocking the way out. Timing is about 3 Seconds until enemy escapes once engaged, and people have faster reflexes than that.
Hallbuster1 votes[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0zrALvE4,comment-id=000100010000,timestamp=2017-06-10T16:41:34.994+0000)
Ryze combo's take little to no reflexes as you need to only press 3 buttons in an order, W > E > Q
in and out aren't exactly hard unless attacking a group, which isn't Kha's usual goal
Anivia can stop the skill shot as it is not a Sol skill shot, the wall is barely used other than blocking the way out. Timing is about 3 Seconds until enemy escapes once engaged, and people have faster reflexes than that.
Lol tbh, W, E, Q was the only combo I used to do consistent damage with Ryze when I first played him. Turns out, it's not always the best combo to use.
Hallbuster1 votesLol tbh, W, E, Q was the only combo I used to do consistent damage with Ryze when I first played him. Turns out, it's not always the best combo to use.
The rest is true though.
Danjeng1 votesWell, play some Ryze with that strategy, and let me know how you do.
Hallbuster1 votesWell, play some Ryze with that strategy, and let me know how you do.
I think he was trying to be sarcastic.
Yaśuo Main1 votesI thought it was obvious, as I said combo's while only saying W E Q. Obviously there are others like E E Q to wave clear, Q W E Q for maximum damage, Q E Q if you are fast and don't wanna waste mana, etc. Not sure what that guy didn't get.
Hallbuster1 votes[{quoted}](name=Yaśuo Main,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0zrALvE4,comment-id=000100010000000100000000,timestamp=2017-06-10T17:46:56.081+0000)
I thought it was obvious, as I said combo's while only saying W E Q. Obviously there are others like E E Q to wave clear, Q W E Q for maximum damage, Q E Q if you are fast and don't wanna waste mana, etc. Not sure what that guy didn't get.
Yeah, there's a lot you can do with Ryze, cough cough, high skill cap.
Yaśuo Main1 votesBTW just a tip, if you wanna tell people what champions to not play if they plan to not feed their butt off, look for champions with a high skill Floor instead of a cap. Skill floors determine difference of noobs and pros.
Danjeng1 votesAll these champions are easy. Only Yasuo should have been on the list, right?
Yaśuo Main1 votesIronically yeah, as he has a high skill cap and a significant skill floor, the only thing "easy" on him is feeding with his miserable base stats for a slayer
Danjeng1 votesPsh, it's not like Anivia has a hard to land skill shot and game changing situational terrain-generating ability. And Gangplank is super easy too, Tobias Fate is actually trash. He might as well be playing Garen. Ryze too. Ryze is definitely a pubstomping champ who excels in lower elo, but falls off in higher levels of play. Ryze is one of the best picks below Plat due to his very easy to master kit. And Azir, of course. Can you get an any more brain dead design on this champ?
Yasuo master race. Obviously you're playing the hardest champion in the game and are being beated by other freelo no skill champs.
Yaśuo Main1 votesWhy'd you edit your comment from "Yasuo should have been on the list" to "Only Yasuo should have been on the list"?
Anivia W is instant cast and easy to aim, Her Q downside is only that it's slow but it's still not easy to dodge, especially with the disorienting angle of the camera. Gangplank isn't "easy" but he's easy to learn, so you'd think like Yi but a bit more skill required and a way higher skill cap. I never said Tobias Fate is trash and that he should be playing Garen, Ryze is really bad right now, Azir is a generalist but not brain dead designed, Yasuo is below 50% winrate in his intended lane and he's not the hardest by far, or in general. Only used efficiently by skilled people, to note. And you are semi right about that last part, as Pantheon requires little skill and is binary. Obviously you are just a douchebag who would edit their own comment to make me look bad.
Hallbuster1 votesAll these champions are easy. Yasuo should have been on the list, right?
I have mixed feelings about Yasuo, I guess he has a high skill cap, even though he's not too hard to play either.
Hallbuster1 votesNo, Ryze actually has a very low winrate, I think 37.5 percent winrate in solo Q but a much higher winrate in pro play. He's high skill cap like I said.
BigMilkCows1 votesNo, Ryze actually has a very low winrate, I think 37.5 percent winrate in solo Q but a much higher winrate in pro play. He's high skill cap like I said.
It isn't necessarily skill cap. Some champs just don't fit well into some skill groups just because of how people play. It is like when I play Ziggs bot, It's a wager because of such weird duo's bot lane and the lack of actual organization. Yet sometimes it works great. Some champs are just harder to play at low skill areas because of weak team compositions. But yeah don't play Azir if your new haha.
Hallbuster1 votesIt isn't necessarily skill cap. Some champs just don't fit well into some skill groups just because of how people play. It is like when I play Ziggs bot, It's a wager because of such weird duo's bot lane and the lack of actual organization. Yet sometimes it works great. Some champs are just harder to play at low skill areas because of weak team compositions. But yeah don't play Azir if your new haha.
Yep, :/.
Dark Nephthys1 votesI consider Anivia more in the middle so I don't really feel that she would be on the list for easy or hard to play champions. What makes her hard to play is managing your mana, positioning, and how easy she is to screw over during her pre level 6 once you learn how to fight her (assuming same skill level and depending on the match up).
Though her positioning is really the only one of those 3 that will persist throughout the game once you get enough experience with her so I don't feel that she is a hard enough champion to add to that list.