Is season 9 a tank meta again?

AR URF··2 votes·2,814 views

I've been playing Nunu tanky. Like full tank. And I'm able to get a decent amount of kills each game, while being beefy and almost unstoppable if I'm near minions. He's not the only one I see this way btw. Nautilus Leona Poppy just to name a few.

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Daddy Ants4 votes

I hope a Tank meta comes back.... I really do.

I'm sick of 1 shot or be 1 shot metas.

Tank meta's are fine.... IF anti-tank items and champions are sufficient enough to deal with them.

I don't want Season 6 back where a Tank only needed item 3068 item 3025 and they were unkillable for the rest of the game unless you were Vayne, Kog'Maw or Fiora.

I feel like Tank Meta's actually force people to find out what item 3035 item 3036 item 3033 item 3151 item 3135 item 3153 item 3071 are.

AR URF1 votes

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I hope a Tank meta comes back.... I really do.

I'm sick of 1 shot or be 1 shot metas.

Tank meta's are fine.... IF anti-tank items and champions are sufficient enough to deal with them.

I don't want Season 6 back where a Tank only needed item 3068 item 3025 and they were unkillable for the rest of the game unless you were Vayne, Kog'Maw or Fiora.

I feel like Tank Meta's actually force people to find out what item 3035 item 3036 item 3033 item 3151 item 3135 item 3153 item 3071 are.

I'm totally with you there. I played a lot of Yasuo mid season 6 and the near the start of season 7. Season 7 starts and every assassin and their mom is one shotting because of item 3147. I dealt with it, and then they changed the runes and I could no longer play any type of bruiser because scaling runes were no longer an option. So I decided to go to playing Leblanc because of her rework. Then they reverted her. Season 8 was just a mess and I'm still having nightmares from that season. Especially because Zed just needed to w, q, e, w, auto attack, ignite and he was guaranteed a kill unless you were playing some tank type champ. Or someone with good base resistances.

Season 8 I simply played a lot of Anivia because she could keep squishy champs from engaging her if you landed q and placed the wall correctly after someone tried to do an engage like Talon or Galio.

Over all, I'd have to say I'm with you on the not being one shot. I'd rather deal with Leona or Galio just coming up to me and slapping me a few times, being very hard to kill, than having a Kayn just pop out of the wall doing w and dealing half my health with it.

The current runes though need improvement. They should put scaling runes again so that you can play how you like. Like for me, I've never been a fan of early game damage. I liked the idea of just farming to build up late game damage and that's what made this game popular IMO.

I just remember why I liked this game so much. Zac was my first champion that I played and I liked just jumping on the enemy, usually dying, but I found a way to not die as much. Then I went over to Teemo and just lined the lanes with mushrooms because they lasted 10 minutes each. Good times haha. Then there was old Tristana and my god do I miss her old kit. I remember when I could poke them down to half health. Then just e ult ignite and that usually gave me the kill. But It didn't happen until a level 6 power spike and I need to win some trades. item 3128 helped with that when I couldn't quite get the kill. Then there was Garen Jinx Blitzcrank Lux Rammus (with homeguard boot enchantments)Singed all the old champs I had fun on.

Ahri Baka1 votes

Boards believe Tanks are a in a bad spot and a gutted class Simply because tanks got low pick rate and everyone picking carries because they don't wanna depen on someone else to win .

Just wait until Tanks are buffed and hear the " Tanks are op " cries .

Daddy Ants1 votes

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Boards believe Tanks are a in a bad spot and a gutted class Simply because tanks got low pick rate and everyone picking carries because they don't wanna depen on someone else to win .

Just wait until Tanks are buffed and hear the " Tanks are op " cries .

Tanks have been getting constant buffs the past few patches.

DrMundo Amumu Chogath Gnar Nautilus Leona Trundle Singed Skarner Garen

Pandemic Punch1 votes

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Tanks have been getting constant buffs the past few patches.

DrMundo Amumu Chogath Gnar Nautilus Leona Trundle Singed Skarner Garen

Only four of those are "Tanks" and only two of them are actually DECENT. Buffs to damage isn't ideal for people who actually enjoy playing tanks. Tank players will easily trade damage for survivability. Survivability is something that won't come back until the Fighters and Bruisers in the Top lane are SIGNIFICANTLY toned down, or there are some SIGNIFICANT changes to tank items/tank class.

Ahri Baka1 votes

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Tanks have been getting constant buffs the past few patches.

DrMundo Amumu Chogath Gnar Nautilus Leona Trundle Singed Skarner Garen

Not all those champions are tanks but yeah , they are tanky enough but I don't really like Tank metas tbh

Pandemic Punch3 votes

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Boards believe Tanks are a in a bad spot and a gutted class Simply because tanks got low pick rate and everyone picking carries because they don't wanna depen on someone else to win .

Just wait until Tanks are buffed and hear the " Tanks are op " cries .

Are you assuming that it is the same people that will be crying about tanks? That is pretty stupid. A safer assumption would be that the people who hate tanks will start speaking up more often.

Tanks ARE in a bad spot right now. Statistically AND practically. When Riven has more survivability than a tank by building full damage, it is time to start considering whether or not there is even a point in having tanks in the game at all. Riven isn't the only one... Jax, Irelia, Aatrox, and a lot more that I don't feel like naming right now have MORE survivability, more mobility, comparable CC, and any damage at all.

But wait!! Nunu is doing well so we must be in a tank meta right?!? What a joke. Out of the top 30 champions in the Top lane, Only 4 of them are tanks. Sion Malphite Chogath Poppy Sion is near troll pick status. He is a support in the top lane. Malphite is a troll pick if you first pick it. Poppy's counters are way too impactful to be worthy of first picking. Cho'gath is probably the only one that is on the safeish side to first pick. Top lane is dominated by Fighters and Bruisers right now. Ranged champions and mages are also outperforming tanks. Not a single Tank in the game is performing as well as Vayne top.... Isn't she supposed to be an ADC!? There are 18 champions in the top 30 who are bruisers and fighters. There are even more Marksman than Tanks in the Top Lane with 4 champions. There is nearly an equal number of mages in the top 30 to tanks at 3 champions.

In the Jungle role, there are only 3 Tanks in the top 30. Amumu Rammus Nunu Jungle is dominated by the same type of champions as the Top lane is. Fighters and Bruisers. Less bruisers here.

In the Support role, there aren't even really 30 practical champions to choose from. However, the only ones with 49% and above win rates are Leona and Blitzcrank

We are NO WHERE NEAR a tank meta. Even the tank metas in the past could be considered an "everything" meta because way more champions were viable than just tanks in every role if you look at all of the old statistics and tier lists. Even in the Cinderhulk meta, there was only one tank that was considered "god tier" in the Top Lane with Fiora and Irelia being dominant back then. The "Tank meta" that all of the tank haters hated, enabled the game to have the most variety in every role. Comps were allowed a lot more room for creativity and innovation. Top of the food chain analysts also agree with this sentiment. Now if you attempt to innovate, you die in .25 seconds by a caster minion running Conqueror.

Ahri Baka1 votes

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Are you assuming that it is the same people that will be crying about tanks? That is pretty stupid. A safer assumption would be that the people who hate tanks will start speaking up more often.

Tanks ARE in a bad spot right now. Statistically AND practically. When Riven has more survivability than a tank by building full damage, it is time to start considering whether or not there is even a point in having tanks in the game at all. Riven isn't the only one... Jax, Irelia, Aatrox, and a lot more that I don't feel like naming right now have MORE survivability, more mobility, comparable CC, and any damage at all.

But wait!! Nunu is doing well so we must be in a tank meta right?!? What a joke. Out of the top 30 champions in the Top lane, Only 4 of them are tanks. Sion Malphite Chogath Poppy Sion is near troll pick status. He is a support in the top lane. Malphite is a troll pick if you first pick it. Poppy's counters are way too impactful to be worthy of first picking. Cho'gath is probably the only one that is on the safeish side to first pick. Top lane is dominated by Fighters and Bruisers right now. Ranged champions and mages are also outperforming tanks. Not a single Tank in the game is performing as well as Vayne top.... Isn't she supposed to be an ADC!? There are 18 champions in the top 30 who are bruisers and fighters. There are even more Marksman than Tanks in the Top Lane with 4 champions. There is nearly an equal number of mages in the top 30 to tanks at 3 champions.

In the Jungle role, there are only 3 Tanks in the top 30. Amumu Rammus Nunu Jungle is dominated by the same type of champions as the Top lane is. Fighters and Bruisers. Less bruisers here.

In the Support role, there aren't even really 30 practical champions to choose from. However, the only ones with 49% and above win rates are Leona and Blitzcrank

We are NO WHERE NEAR a tank meta. Even the tank metas in the past could be considered an "everything" meta because way more champions were viable than just tanks in every role if you look at all of the old statistics and tier lists. Even in the Cinderhulk meta, there was only one tank that was considered "god tier" in the Top Lane with Fiora and Irelia being dominant back then. The "Tank meta" that all of the tank haters hated, enabled the game to have the most variety in every role. Comps were allowed a lot more room for creativity and innovation. Top of the food chain analysts also agree with this sentiment. Now if you attempt to innovate, you die in .25 seconds by a caster minion running Conqueror.

Are you assuming I'm gonna read all that? lmao

GayFluffyUnicorn1 votes

Yes how much variety we had just last season and the season before. Seju, zac jungle. Alistar, tahm, braum botlane. Mao, cho, ornn toplane. Galio/sion mid.

That's all we saw. How much variety. You could choose between 8 different CC bots. What a game play.

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