Can we talk about mana on mages?

Unlucky47··1 votes·1,398 views

I don't think the mechanic as a whole serves it's purpose well. Anyone that plays a mage knows that once you buy RoA or Morello you don't have mana problems for the rest of the game unless you're someone like kass, swain, or sol. I think for the standard mage that one mana item shouldn't be enough to sustain someone spamming abilities non stop.

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Handy Sandy 4 votes

Morello won't last you 5 minutes if you're clearing waves.

Erockandroll1 votes

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Morello won't last you 5 minutes if you're clearing waves.

The thing with the new mage items is, their mana sustain is so situational. You won't go 5 minutes with Morello's, unless you keep killing and triggering his passive. Though these passives are more manageable than the old items that relied on mana regen. Now, you have to work for your mana.

I kinda disagree with OP regarding mana reliance though. I think mages can have a lot more variance in their reliance in mana. whether it's one item or three.

venomous frost2 votes

why the negative bias towards mages? why are AD champs allowed to spam spells without a single mana item?

Mana isn't even a resource anymore, and it shouldn't be. Resourceless champions really have no downsides, despite theoretically needing lower combat stats, they don't.

Leo10242 votes

you clearly don't play mages if you think one item gives you infinite mana sustain

Unlucky471 votes

I play vel'koz and ahri and with morello it's basically infinite. You won't run out of mana unless you endlessly spam your abilities everytime they're off cooldown

Leo10241 votes

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I play vel'koz and ahri and with morello it's basically infinite. You won't run out of mana unless you endlessly spam your abilities everytime they're off cooldown

velkoz runs out decently fast and those are usually all or nothing champs, they won't use anything but their Q unless they're going all in. Orianna almost never uses Q without using W too, she shields herself with E as well which burns through mana. Syndra will always poke with Q and try to follow up with EW which drains lots of mana since a lot of times it doesn't work. And viktor harasses with his E but tries to follow up with his Q. Ryze will have insane mana problems early game from combos and saying that a morelos is enough to fix that is laughable. Aside from supports. i play mages almost exclusively in mid, morellonomicom isn't a broken item, it's supposed to have good stats because it doesn't offer anything else, no active, no slows passive nothing but grevious wounds and good stats, being a core item for a lot of mages is ok, especially since there are ones that don't even buy it

Oleandervine1 votes

Can we talk about energy on ninjas and Lee Sin and no resources on Riven and Yasuo?

I don't think the mechanic as a whole serves it's purpose well. Anyone that plays a ninja or Lee Sin or Riven or Yasuo knows that once you start the game you don't have resource problems for the rest of the game. I think for the standard ninja or Lee Sin or Yasuo or Riven that having to buy no items shouldn't be enough to sustain someone spamming abilities non stop.

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