List of non high tier champions that will suffer from DFG removal.

UkeNeverSeme··2 votes·1,226 views

Diana. DFG is really important to getting her snowballing, and as every Diana player knows... If you don't snowball your prety fucked. Getting a too late zhonya's means losing the game. Veigar. DFG Q R on AP squishies is the only reason to play this guy amirite? Mordekaiser. Hextech & DFG are to core actives for him to make sure he gets his ghost. Annie. Midlane annie's core items are DFG mobi boots, allowing her to utilize her great roaming and snowball, she needs to as she tends to be outranged in lane. Katarina. I have some problems seeing a new Kat build? Hextech Gunblade instead i guess? og the full MPen build, but DFG removal really hurts her already not very good dueling, and removes a lot of in-lane threat. Malzahar. burst malzahar rushes DFG void staff for some of the best 1-shotting in the game, that's now gone. AP Shaco. Ap shaco is highly reliant on DFG to amplify box traps dmg.

Those are the champs i think need to see some changes to help them after DFG removal, feel free to add additional ones i might have forgotten

Edit: DFG removal also removes a lot of AP offbuilds such as AP nunu, AP Malphite, AP Poppy, AP Rengar, etc. because they're reliant on DFG to amplify high base damages, or some ludicrously high scaling on a single ability.

17 Comments

Drunk Rummate6 votes

katarina will rush Hourglass and she will be fine. DFG removal is a healthy nerf for her.

A Wild AP Sona3 votes

ap sona is dead and has lost 700-800 damage per rotation counting this nerf

Tin Tarantino1 votes

Are you counting the nerfs to staccato she has on the PBE as well?

A Wild AP Sona1 votes

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Are you counting the nerfs to staccato she has on the PBE as well?

yes

dfg itself supplies about 500 damage of burst to sona and she has already lost about 200-300 damage per rotation from lich bane/previous sona nerfs end game

Tin Tarantino1 votes

And on top of that her main damage rotation is on cool down a lot longer than before the rework

ZackBlack1 votes

What should I buy on Syndra now? Burst mage's burst nerfed 20%, no compensation?

UkeNeverSeme2 votes

Half of the people playing syndra build athenes or morellos into deathcap anyhow? and she's already super strong base, just from her kit. no she won't have a problem after this lol

Edit: honestly I'll be happy that she can't nullify any outplay you've dont by pressing DFG R any more... super obnoxious dodging 3 or 4 abilities and then just getting oneshot by a point and click ability.

ZackBlack1 votes

Well I build Deathcap DFG but my pro Gold V builds are questionable anyway. You are right, the Ulti lacks counterplay. But so does Fizz. If he gets compensation, why should Syndra not?

UkeNeverSeme2 votes

They're looking on nerfing fizz? and I don't think he'll get compensation for the DFG removal, it's not a core item on him anyhow. Lichbane Zhonyas Void staff i think is the best build path, then get rabadons/defensiveitem or something after that.

JevelFaithful1 votes

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What should I buy on Syndra now? Burst mage-with-only-1-build-path's burst nerfed 20%, no compensation?

Fixed that for you. Those with multiple path probably take a smaller hit. They said they would compensate the others. Tought maybe not in term of raw burst. Game change -> new balance state.

Kroda131 votes

They already said they are working on compensations and will post them when they are done. You fucking people are so impatient lol

UkeNeverSeme3 votes

I was just making a post where people could list all the ones they had issues with DFG being missing on? I know some of them are on the way, but theres no reason not to make a post from the players view about what champs have problems with DFG missing and why o.O

TheIronCarrot1 votes

And your missing master yee.

UkeNeverSeme2 votes

Who doesn't have any AP dmg at all any more xD ?

ravenswolfy1 votes

Garen :(

Drunk Rummate1 votes

Can't believe how many people have forgotten about DFGaren

RIP Garen, indirectly nerfed into obscurity with the removal of DFG.

Genreninja1 votes

I think it's important to highlight one of the comments in the post:

The second reason is strongly tied to the first; removing this item gives us room to buff champion kits that would otherwise be overpowered if they could use DFG.

It's not going to be removed, and then that's the end of it. There is a plan in place here, and this is a step towards whatever goal it is they have.

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