I think I just figured out just what the problem with ALL CertainlyT champs is...

SaltyToplaneGoat··2 votes·705 views

I looked at all the champs he has designed,

Thresh Zyra Kalista Darius Yasuo and now also the rework of Mordekaiser

Now, they are all quite different champs tho... marksmen, mages, tanks, melee fighters... just what is the unifying element in all these?

They all have some weird extra thing strapped to their kit that is purely stat related.

Darius has (not sure if he still has but he sure had) free flat armor penetration on his E. Tresh has the damage passive on his E. Zyra gets free CDR, a stat that, in that low value, feels even more hidden than normal hidden power, Yasuo on his release (initial design) had a passive on Windwall that gave him flow whenever he dashed. Oh, and ofc that crit bullshit. Kalista's extra is bound to her ally, but had to be nerfed apparently.

And Morde? Also has an extra stat passive on his W: this time with EXP, which has proven to be extremly problematic and should be scrapped ASAP in my opinion.

In most cases it would be just easier to remove that part and use the power budget somewhere else. Tresh is a CC/Utility-Tank, why would he need the damage? Why has Zyra her power budget stuffed up with this lame CDR? Why did someone strap flat armor penetration to a champion who has to do nothing to earn that? Especially one that loves building item 3071 ?

Tl, dr.: I recomment riot opening a position as "designer observer" and whenever CertainlyT tacks some weird extra thing into a kit that feels extremly unneeded they slap him on his fingers and tell him to re-do the design.

Also that guy should have the job to slap Stashu once he even mentions the word "stacks"...

5 Comments

ThePartyLeader1 votes

Champs that have free stats in there kit. Example not an exhaustive list. Aatrox - att speed- r Ahri- spell vamp - passive Akali- magic damage spell vamp - passive Alister - damage - r Annie - armor and Mr - e Blitz -move speed - w Braum- armor and Mr - w Cait - damage - passive Chogath - health - r

SaltyToplaneGoat1 votes

1.) That's his passive, not something extra attached 2.) No spellvamp, got changed to flat heal some time ago, also, her passive 3.) Also, as I said, her passive and not something extra. 4.) An active ability 5.) Same 6.) Same 7.) Same 8.) her only passive 9.) He has to do something for it.

I'm talking about extra bonuses such as the armor pen on darius E in addition to a passive.

ThePartyLeader1 votes

I guess I miss understood your post. Maybe I still do. You want binary abilities I guess is what I'm getting now. So instead of thresh having the gameplay mechanic on his e deciding when he can trade should he just have pure stats instead?

Yasuos crit is his passive b from my understanding but it is different than akali because he had to build crit to get crit and akali just has to build ad and ap to get her stats. Is it because it mentions his flow system that makes it feel like his crit is just a freebee after thought?

MisterHealYoGirl1 votes

Stat bonuses are not nearly unique to CertainlyT's champions; that's not what I've seen people complain about the most. Generally, is that, regardless of balance state (Zyra is not on the same power level as Darius), they don't have a single glaring weakness in the same way that someone like Jinx does.

Amarajah1 votes

well ye everyone knows his characters get multiple passives and/or free stats everywhere, ive heard this said multiple times nothing new

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