Against high hp objectives like the baron and elder dragon, Jhin's 4th bullet crit out-damage smite at any point of the game. really makes no sense how an adc's auto attack can provide such strong objective control .
IcyPepper8 votesreally makes no sense how an adc's auto attack can provide such strong objective control .
You do realize there's a reason why adc's dominate bot lane, right?
That's literally the reason there.
Arakadia4 votes
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SexualizeOatmeal1 votesI do agree with that, however, the reason adc and support are played at bottom is because of dragon, making it easier to contest it. However, if players started going for Herald more often, and it became a problem, it is possible that adc and support could be moved to top inorder to help control that objective.
IcyPepper1 votesWhile herald is nice and all, the dragon buff is global and permanent.
Herald's buff would have to be severely overtuned to shift the meta that massively, and Rito would likely nerf it if that ever happened.
Lane-swapping and the support roaming, however, is another cup of tea entirely.
SexualizeOatmeal1 votesWhile I do agree with all that you said, I was just pointing out that the reason why support and adc are played bot lane is because of the objective(s) that are located there.
EMeta7 votesHe's one of the worst adcs for taking turrets, but one of the better ones for taking baron/drag. That's a good tradeoff for me.
MissingKayo6 votesBecause he's like the only ADC with % missing health on an auto? In return, his attack speed is static except growth by level up only, he only gets 4 autos, and he is stuck with 2.5 seconds of nothing to do except abilities until he can auto again after his fourth? And his fourth is the only one that applies the % missing health.
The Deckowner1 votesthe missing % hp on the ourth auto makes 50/50 smite meaningless since it can kill the baron way above smite range.
MissingKayo1 votesOr you could realize that's sort of the point that he can do that once he gets fed. Or you could just CC or kill him first because he'll be holding on to that fourth shot which means no massive fourth shot damage against any of your teammates trying to take the Dragon/Baron and his damage is pitiful without autos because everything except his Q is dodgeable easily, and Q has a short range.
Akali is SO HOT5 votes
Veigarisgod11 votesIt exists because riot favors mages an ADCs.
Into The Aether1 votesADCs are supposed to be good at killing objectives like Dragon and Baron. Though aren't %-health effects usually capped against monsters purely to keep them somewhat reigned in?
Maybe make sure it isn't a smite, but keep it beefy in the latter half?
JustMonika132 votes[{quoted}](name=Into The Aether,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0naI0jFP,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2016-08-28T22:45:08.208+0000)
ADCs are supposed to be good at killing objectives like Dragon and Baron. Though aren't %-health effects usually capped against monsters purely to keep them somewhat reigned in?
Maybe make sure it isn't a smite, but keep it beefy in the latter half?
Nope, Jhin's missing % health damage isn't capped against monsters and minions. Considering it's only on one of his auto attacks, has a fixed attack speed, and has a fixed reload time, I think it's fair.
VivaLaKitten1 votesJhin just got a huge nerf and he was balanced before that
JustMonika131 votesADC's have two jobs: Dealing sustained damage in a fight and having objective control/being an objective shredder. Some do the second job differently, and have different specializations with different objective types. Jhin ain't the best turret pusher, but has a pretty great neutral objective control with his fourth shot. Vayne and Kalista are also two examples of those who are better with neutral jungle objectives than they are with structures.
VivaLaKitten1 votesas opposed to Vayne being able to solo Baron completely? and within a few seconds?