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BARD NOOB QUESTIONS !

abscondita··1 votes·1,384 views

Hey folks , I am a noob bard and I would like to ask a few questions : 1.Not sure if my q stuns buffs when hit on a wall behind them in jungle yet cause I haven’t accomplished it while helping my lvl1 jungler.Does it? 2.To go through a portal as soon as I cast it do I have to click on the actual portal only?Because when I click on the gate I stand like an idiot and even die. 3.Is it ba(r)d (cringe) to mute a teammate as soon as he starts spamming pings on me because I have electrocute and ignite even though I explained it to them ?Because ik I won’t be able to communicate with them for the rest of the game.Some adcs take ignite and flame me for not taking kill.I main karma as a supp and I am a good support in general and I really never take heal.So this was a general support question.

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Kai Guy1 votes

Q stuns any unit, not just champions. You can Q jungle camps if the jungler does not pull them to far away from terrain. You can stun with Q off item 3512 and other generated terrain. Depending on jungler and teams. Some times you might want to Grab W first over Q. That way you can leave 1-3 hp pads for your mid lane Or jungler to use. The trick is you have to rush and start dropping them asap or you wont have time to back to get your mp. You also need to get vision. It might be more trouble then its worth for you right now to even bother.

2.Theres a sweet spot, I recommend going to practice tool and training till you can reliably get instantly into portals. I usualy click just slightly inside the terrain near the center of it. Practice tool and train mate, you wanna get good at fast casting that E properly.

3 Ignite and Electrocute compensate your early game. Your meeps count as a trigger so 1 Q and passive empowered Auto trigger ele. Solid harassment when done right. Exaust can be viable, some ADCS like TP with the support running the heal. Imo... do what your good with in relation to your MMR. Lower Elo I don't trust adcs with TP As much as I trust myself with ignite.

Other information. Use E to get out of base faster. There's a tunnel at Fountain both lanes, Tunnels near Hibi turrets, both lanes.

AP scaling is a noob trap on bard. E and R lack scaling. W requires 10 seconds set up to see full ratios and is a long cd. Q is ok but CD gated and can wiff. Passive is weak scaling, and requires an auto. 0.3 damage per point of AP vs 1 damage for a point of AD.

item 3504 is a bit weaker for the same reasons Ap is weak on W. CD is to long, set up takes to long. Unreliable.

I go off meta myself for the build. Don't recommend that if your still learning thou.... item 3512 item 3153 are my core items because i abuse item CDR runes and can reliably use the ZZrot to set up stuns with Q under pressure. BOTRK is just stupid good auto damage cost efficiency. if you can kite with bard it stacks up damage, the AS on it enables you to overlap the slow on Meeps later on in the game as well. and 1 point of ad > damage then 1 point of AP owing to bards passive and Q not even breaking 1 to 1 ap scaling.

So Standard "support" items that have impact on match outcomes are things like item 3107 item 3905 item 3109 item 3190 item 2065 because you have 100% control over targeting and decisions on how to use them, Rather then having to spend 20-40 seconds setting up W's that can be wasted if teammates wont use them.

don't rush T3 support items.. For example. item 3098 upgraded into item 3092 cost you 950 gold. It literally only provides you with 15 ap and 200 hp + 1 extra ward once the quest is completed. This is not worth delaying any other item by almost 1k gold. You have half almost any good support item with 950 gold and they provide you a much higher power spike.

abscondita1 votes

I am a little confused because I LOVE shurelya’s but idk when I have to buy it:< honestly I think it is a good idea when the enemy has skill shots you have to dodge,ms makes it so much easier and Is very useful for supports,especially for bard.

ChaosReyn1 votes

Shurelya's is a good trade-out for censor in games where people understand you more. I'd honestly get it by mid game - right after twin shadows, so you have your scouting tool, then your mobility tool. The reason I suggested Censor instead is another case of "OmG BaRd Doesn't HaVe CeNsOr"

People generally don't understand Censor's not really optimal. On the other hand, it's still really amazing if your adc does know how to play around your shrines, so it's not really weak, more than it requires your team to know what you do, and how to work it in lane.

ChaosReyn1 votes
  1. Q will stun if it hits
  • Any enemy/neutral unit, then a wall. (yes, you can hit red/blue with this)
  • any enemy/neutral unit, then a second enemy/neutral unit (will generally stun both)

It will NOT stun epic monsters (baron/dragon) and it will NOT stun unless it hits two targets, however, if you hit an epic monster and an enemy champion, the enemy champion will still get stunned as normal.

  1. Click the open end, and it should let you pass quickly. There are sometimes some annoying UI things that happen, but 9/10 times, it works as intended.

  2. As a general rule, if someone wants to flame you for your runes/sums, just mute them. However, there are a ton of ways you can run Bard, and I can tell you the majority of the clueless ones are expecting you to run Aery for stronger defenses. Those same clueless people are the ones who pick up your shrines before they're charged, then say you have no healing power. This wasn't your question...but its a good time to PSA that Bard does a helluva lot better running a more aggressive rune page. My personal favorite is Hail of Blades (lets you rapid-fire meeps for more surprising damage in the mid/late without overcommitting like you would with Lethal Tempo) which you can probably imagine gets me the same "wtf?!" pings you get with Electrocute. Ignite is quickly becoming more preferred than Exhaust to most supports, so if they're pinging your ignite, they probably haven't played since like season 4.

ChaosReyn1 votes

Bonus: HailofBlades/TasteofBlood/GhostPoro(or ZombieWard)/RavenousHunter||FontofLife/Revitalize (my Bard setup)

Ghost Poro is the easier between the two, as Zombie Ward requires you to actively and effectively counter-ward the enemy, which isn't as noob friendly. That being said, if you're good at roaming and playing around denying vision over supplying vision, Zombie Ward is definitely the stronger pick if you're going to play around roaming. Basically, your whole primary tree is meant to allow you quick bursts of poke damage that also keeps yourself alive so you don't need to eat your own shrines as much in lane, and ensures that if you land a stun, your primary target will ABSOLUTELY catch all the meeps. Your secondary tree strengthens your healing to all sources, so your shrines have just a bit more to offer.

As far as builds go, it's a bit more adaptable. Usually, I go with a more support oriented build: item 3098 item 3117 item 3107 item 3905 item 3504 "optional last item".

But as I've mentioned, there's a lot of adaptability to Bard. I've run everything from full AD, Hybrid, and "Sonic (maximum movespeed, with predator) Bard, and he doesn't disappoint if you're good with him and your team knows what's up. I would not recommend Sonic Bard outside of a 5-man though, and to be fair, that was Jungle Bard. xD

abscondita1 votes

Thank you so much you helped me a lot :) ❤️❤️❤️ A comment on YouTube : when I used ms build,I was also wearing my bard bard skin and I called it Vroom vroom bard bard . I can’t be the only one who laughed until I cried.

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