BARD NOOB QUESTIONS !

abscondita·7/25/2019, 8:22:32 PM·1 votes·1,384 views

Hey folks , I am a noob bard and I would like to ask a few questions : 1.Not sure if my q stuns buffs when hit on a wall behind them in jungle yet cause I haven’t accomplished it while helping my lvl1 jungler.Does it? 2.To go through a portal as soon as I cast it do I have to click on the actual portal only?Because when I click on the gate I stand like an idiot and even die. 3.Is it ba(r)d (cringe) to mute a teammate as soon as he starts spamming pings on me because I have electrocute and ignite even though I explained it to them ?Because ik I won’t be able to communicate with them for the rest of the game.Some adcs take ignite and flame me for not taking kill.I main karma as a supp and I am a good support in general and I really never take heal.So this was a general support question.

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Kai Guy7/25/2019, 9:11:11 PM1 votes

Q stuns any unit, not just champions. You can Q jungle camps if the jungler does not pull them to far away from terrain. You can stun with Q off item 3512 and other generated terrain. Depending on jungler and teams. Some times you might want to Grab W first over Q. That way you can leave 1-3 hp pads for your mid lane Or jungler to use. The trick is you have to rush and start dropping them asap or you wont have time to back to get your mp. You also need to get vision. It might be more trouble then its worth for you right now to even bother.

2.Theres a sweet spot, I recommend going to practice tool and training till you can reliably get instantly into portals. I usualy click just slightly inside the terrain near the center of it. Practice tool and train mate, you wanna get good at fast casting that E properly.

3 Ignite and Electrocute compensate your early game. Your meeps count as a trigger so 1 Q and passive empowered Auto trigger ele. Solid harassment when done right. Exaust can be viable, some ADCS like TP with the support running the heal. Imo... do what your good with in relation to your MMR. Lower Elo I don't trust adcs with TP As much as I trust myself with ignite.

Other information. Use E to get out of base faster. There's a tunnel at Fountain both lanes, Tunnels near Hibi turrets, both lanes.

AP scaling is a noob trap on bard. E and R lack scaling. W requires 10 seconds set up to see full ratios and is a long cd. Q is ok but CD gated and can wiff. Passive is weak scaling, and requires an auto. 0.3 damage per point of AP vs 1 damage for a point of AD.

item 3504 is a bit weaker for the same reasons Ap is weak on W. CD is to long, set up takes to long. Unreliable.

I go off meta myself for the build. Don't recommend that if your still learning thou.... item 3512 item 3153 are my core items because i abuse item CDR runes and can reliably use the ZZrot to set up stuns with Q under pressure. BOTRK is just stupid good auto damage cost efficiency. if you can kite with bard it stacks up damage, the AS on it enables you to overlap the slow on Meeps later on in the game as well. and 1 point of ad > damage then 1 point of AP owing to bards passive and Q not even breaking 1 to 1 ap scaling.

So Standard "support" items that have impact on match outcomes are things like item 3107 item 3905 item 3109 item 3190 item 2065 because you have 100% control over targeting and decisions on how to use them, Rather then having to spend 20-40 seconds setting up W's that can be wasted if teammates wont use them.

don't rush T3 support items.. For example. item 3098 upgraded into item 3092 cost you 950 gold. It literally only provides you with 15 ap and 200 hp + 1 extra ward once the quest is completed. This is not worth delaying any other item by almost 1k gold. You have half almost any good support item with 950 gold and they provide you a much higher power spike.

ChaosReyn7/25/2019, 9:23:57 PM1 votes

Q will stun if it hits

Any enemy/neutral unit, then a wall. (yes, you can hit red/blue with this)
any enemy/neutral unit, then a second enemy/neutral unit (will generally stun both)

It will NOT stun epic monsters (baron/dragon) and it will NOT stun unless it hits two targets, however, if you hit an epic monster and an enemy champion, the enemy champion will still get stunned as normal.

Click the open end, and it should let you pass quickly. There are sometimes some annoying UI things that happen, but 9/10 times, it works as intended.
As a general rule, if someone wants to flame you for your runes/sums, just mute them. However, there are a ton of ways you can run Bard, and I can tell you the majority of the clueless ones are expecting you to run Aery for stronger defenses. Those same clueless people are the ones who pick up your shrines before they're charged, then say you have no healing power. This wasn't your question...but its a good time to PSA that Bard does a helluva lot better running a more aggressive rune page. My personal favorite is Hail of Blades (lets you rapid-fire meeps for more surprising damage in the mid/late without overcommitting like you would with Lethal Tempo) which you can probably imagine gets me the same "wtf?!" pings you get with Electrocute. Ignite is quickly becoming more preferred than Exhaust to most supports, so if they're pinging your ignite, they probably haven't played since like season 4.