Is it normal for Vladimir to be tankier than Mundo?

zecastar·Jul 5, 2016·8 votes·862 views

...because that just happened on equal gold. He was also doing more damage to my team. :(

14 Comments

Blood MagicksJul 5, 20166 votes

Note Vlad's lifebar is incredibly deceptive.

On one hand he may heal a lot but he also may pay up to 30% of his health to cast spells. So if you focus him mid E you'll always be dealing with a 10% less tanky champ than his stats show ( E costs 10% max health)

JayHog1992Jul 5, 20163 votes

By "tanky", do you mean healthier or more armor/MR?

Because healthier is normal, since he tends to buy all sorts of HP items that benefit him. item 3116 item 3065 item 3151

If it means more armor/MR, then no.

JetjoeJul 5, 20161 votes

I think the person is ignoring the fact vlad is a tank and almost any magic champion can go tanky and still deal lots of damage. item 3027 , item 3151 item 3116 are three 80-100 AP items with about 400-500 health that are all great with passives and everything,

JayHog1992Jul 5, 20161 votes

Rod of ages seems a waste on him tough since he gains nothing with mana.

JetjoeJul 5, 20161 votes

Oh im just giving a general idea, Those three items are something I take on teemo top actually lol.

But vlad could always stack two liandrys for the added health bonus .

JayHog1992Jul 5, 20161 votes

Passive doesn't proc tough.

I can think of adding warmog's for when he's done killing with a sliver of HP, so he doesn't have to back or look for jungle/lane creeps.

JetjoeJul 5, 20161 votes

Thats a good idea too, doesnt promote the damage but good passive.

JetjoeJul 5, 20162 votes

Mundo is honestly a broken piece of useless junk. He hardly does any actual damage in team fights, hes just there to sit in lane all day and make you send 2-3 people to kill him

AramsAreBestJul 5, 20168 votes

If you don't do damage as Mundo then you're doing something very wrong.

JetjoeJul 5, 20161 votes

Mundos primary damage is his cleavers which are easy to dodge, Single target yes, he does alot of damage which is why he sits in lane

Nanuk PihoqahiakJul 5, 20162 votes

Using the excuse that his cleavers are 'easy to dodge' is silly. All it takes is him landing one cleaver and he's guaranteed to land the rest assuming he isn't asleep at the wheel. And for a character that can build only defensive stats he has some of the highest damage for his classification.

JetjoeJul 5, 20161 votes

But remember mundos cleaves are magic damage only and they do a % of current health, I think 25% max. So if you get some combination of life steal and a magic resist item it decreases his power greatly. Inflict grievous wounds and he dies.

Nanuk PihoqahiakJul 5, 20162 votes

Didn't you say earlier Mundo does no damage? Why would you counterbuild someone that does no damage? Lol. Apparently he does enough damage that you advocate building against him.

Also, Grievous Wounds as a counter to someone like Mundo is nice, but it's not an absolute against him. You'd still need 2-3 people focusing him to actually bring him down. This also doesn't account for the fact that one of those people will be slowed by cleavers and he gains massive movement speed to kite anyone else while popping you from a distance.

JetjoeJul 5, 20161 votes

Im saying hes strong in lane in a 1 v 1 scenario, although that also starts to get weak if you stay behind minions. What mundo isnt strong in is a team fight scenario. Which is why I posted initially, hes just a stupid rock who sits top lane, as far as team fights goes he doesnt do alot of damage. Some nice tanks are malphite and rammus who have a huge AOE, and can wipe out squishies.