Skarner W 80% AP Scaling Doesn't Make Sense
I feel like even a 20% AD shield scaling is more useful than 80% AP. AP Skarner's not all that viable. If Skarner wants to go damage, he gets Fervor, Trinity, Warrior etc.
I feel like even a 20% AD shield scaling is more useful than 80% AP. AP Skarner's not all that viable. If Skarner wants to go damage, he gets Fervor, Trinity, Warrior etc.
If I remember correctly, back in the day Trinity Force used to have AP on it, and Skarner would build TForce, so that extra AP gave his shield a little boost
Skarner in general doesn't make sense. He needs a rework more than anyone right now.
should be 90%
It's for incidental AP boosts; it's increased by things like Baron buff, Infernal, etc. Shen has an AP ratio on his R, for example.
Also, ew, Warrior on Skarner. I don't wanna be as squishy as a Sona for my first buy.
I used to play nothing but skarner 24/7 all day and night. Best champ on my roster, my loyal friend. I heard that he was getting a rework, thought it was ok, he was pretty op even though rarely played.
But no, its wasn't a rework.... it was a butchering. RiP old friend. I've barely touched you since. :'(
Im hoping he gets adjustments coming this next season. Also waiting for a Fiddlesticks rework.
Now all I play is 
A lot of older champions have arbitrary ratios, partially so that Riot doesn't get spammed with "WHY ISNT AP SKARNER PLAYABLE???" and partially for things like Baron buff, elixirs, buffs from champions ETC..
well, originally skarner had high enough AP scaleings across the kit to actually make ap builts viable on him. However, each rework took away some of his scaleings so ap isn't great on him anymore.
Anyway, i'd really prefer him getting back enough AP ratios to once more funktion as ap or hybrid bruiser rather than cutting down the rest of his scaleings. Though i gues with hybrid beeing solwly but surely removed from the game, that won't happen...
These kinds of counter-intuitive scalings serve a purpose. They allow otherwise AD champions to slightly benefit from sources of hybrid AD/AP, such as the old version of Trinity Force. They make it so that Riot can potentially add sources of ambient AP, such as Baron Buff, without the stat feeling bad as a 100% waste on your champion. They aren't meant to encourage you to go out of your way to build AP on AD champions, though you are often free to do so as a joke build, but to make it so that the player will feel they get some marginal benefit from any AP you do end up picking up. There are many examples of this kind of scaling, such as on Ashe's ultimate, Sivir's Q, Tryndamere's Q & E, Yi's W, etc., so it isn't a case of Skarner being odd.
I miss pre this recent rework skarner.
Most AP scalings on otherwise AD champions are there so incidental AP purchases ('ad' items that happen to have ap on them)/buffs don't feel 'wasted'.
The most notable example was trinity force giving some AP (which has since changed), but also things like baron buff (and for a time blue buff), and leaving the possibility there for stuff like rageblade or any future hybrid items that under the right conditions might be at least considered. (The vast majority of modern champions have AP scaling somewhere for this reason, and theres only a handful of exceptions.)
Pretty sure Lee Sin has an 80% scaling on his W as well.
If you want it to be useful, go Bloodrazor Guinsoos Nashor Tooth Skarner.
...goddamnit I have classes in the morning. sighs and turns on League
join the party. lee's w shield has an 80% ap scaling shield and he NEVER builds ap, ever. at least when TF had ap it fit skarner and the item just changed, it literally NEVER made sense on lee
Going AP on Skarner is a noob trap
It's a relic from when Trinity Force gave AP. Literally the only reason it exists. The shield is meant to be 100% health based and have nothing to do with AD or AP. The AP ratio was just there on all of his abilities so Skarner didn't feel bad about buying Trinity Force with wasted AP stats.
That said, I'd rather just have the AP ratios than not have them. Doesn't necessarily mean he'll get buffed if they get removed and they certainly do add a bit of damage and shield to him when you happen to have that tiny bit of AP from masteries.
Well, Skarner's Q needs to become a pulsing attack, tapping Q all the time is bad design.
Same with udyr. He has ap scalings on shield and phoenix. Even if you go ap jungle item, which is pretty bad rn, it gives like 20-30.
I'd rather they just buff its base value and in exchange remove any damage scaling from it since he can't afford to build much AD to make AD scaling worthwhile and none of the items he'd realistically buy have AP anyway.
I feel like not enough people play Skarner to even have an opinion on him. Back when the feral flare jungle item let you apply double attacks (like guinsoo's rage blade), he had a glitch that made him do a ton of damage. So little people played him that the glitch was never even fixed, I don't know if it works with guinsoo's though. There are youtube videos if you look hard enough. Like no one plays him, everyone just calls him trash. It's like how Urgot was a really hard counter to Assassin's in mid lane before his rework, but did anyone pick Urgot into them? Nope, they just said he sucked and then moved on to complain about how op Zed is. I think Skarner is fine and there is a way to play him, but no one wants to find it. He's a boring champion and not op enough for people to look past that. But seriously how did the fact that Feral applied 4x his passive damage go unnoticed? Will link a youtube video to it if I have the energy to.
It made a lot more sense when Sheen came with AP so he benefited more from buying Trinity or Iceborn. Most shield scalings on tanks now are Health based anyways but that's probably a change destined for Skarner's eventual (4th?) rework/incarnation.