"assassins need to have higher kill windows for counterplay"

Big Lincoln··7 votes·553 views

Annie Anivia Viktor Riven Bard ?

why haven't these champs gotten their kill windows raised then? the first two can 100-0 you with entirely point and click skills before you can even react to them

Riven is probably going to have a lower kill time than most assassins now, and she's supposed to be DPS oriented.

i don't even need to start on bard

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ThePikol8 votes

Pls do start on Bard

Big Lincoln6 votes

bard is the most disgustingly overpowered champion riot has ever released

worse than beta jax with his ridiculous permanent CC combined with his obscene damage and xin zhao prime. bard will assassinate your carry and your best friend and then force you to go through an endless hell of tunnels and stuns, while he mocks you with those satanic musical noises and flashes the mastery you know he has, taunting you to keep chasing him to your grisly end

Jayblaze1 votes

stop chasing you fool

ChaddyFantome1 votes

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bard is the most disgustingly overpowered champion riot has ever released

worse than beta jax with his ridiculous permanent CC combined with his obscene damage and xin zhao prime. bard will assassinate your carry and your best friend and then force you to go through an endless hell of tunnels and stuns, while he mocks you with those satanic musical noises and flashes the mastery you know he has, taunting you to keep chasing him to your grisly end

Omg I laughed so hard! I'm crying of laughter here! xDDD +1'd!

ForgiveColour6 votes

"Viktor can have wave clear, burst, great lane phase/mid game/late game 2k range spells and a free lichbane and its totally fair and balanced because hes a mage"

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Big Lincoln2 votes

remember when he was just a shitty poke mage and not one that does literally everything a mage could possibly do

those were good days

Sahn Uzal2 votes

Riven is quite a bursty champion. Having a half decent Riven with Flash up basically means the enemy team won't have a backline (unless some Janna manages to get her ult off before Riven CC's her.)

GULAG 4 U2 votes

anivia has point and clicks? You didn't read her tooltips M9?

Annie has no range lmao

And what thhe fuck??? Bard??? ????????

Big Lincoln2 votes

if you miss anivia's R you need to uninstall

bard is the most overpowered champion the game

GULAG 4 U1 votes

watttttt? bard is the most OP champ in the game???/????

Big Lincoln1 votes

bard is literally freelo abused in every lane

no counterplay gg toxic champ

GULAG 4 U1 votes

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Ralanr1 votes

The normal weakness for most of them is that they die quickly if you get in on them.

Course that's only if they build squishy (high Rylai's).

Riven is just mobile as fuck.

Big Lincoln4 votes

assassins die quickly if they get jumped, too, though

kind of sad that ranged AoE CC mages also have faster burst than the class dedicated to bursting people don't you think?

Ralanr2 votes

Well they pay for it by being immobile and (supposedly) squishy. Problem is that one of these weaknesses aren't showing up.

Megguido1 votes

Well, Anivia can't really hop over a wall, kill your Cait and escape. Those mages like Annie / Syndra / Anivia have stupid amounts of burst damage but they are the less mobile champions of the game. They are slow, they are squishy. If they don't have any damage / any CC, what's the point playing that champ ?

Even if assassins deal less damage, at least they can choose their target, kill it and go away. Those mages have nothing except a flash to escape from anything.

Big Lincoln3 votes

yeah but assassins aren't guaranteed a kill just for being in range of you

not to mention both of them have amazing target selection because they're point and click

idk I was under the impression Anivia was a utility mage given how riot has described her

Annie just shouldn't have an instant AoE stun now that tibber is so strong

Tychusfindlay9191 votes

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The normal weakness for most of them is that they die quickly if you get in on them.

Course that's only if they build squishy (high Rylai's).

Riven is just mobile as fuck.

Riven is pretty damn squishy too. The most I see riven's get is a GA and maybe a juggy item like Steraks.

I dont understand the bard complaint though.

18 NAKED COWB0YS1 votes

dont remember riven being point and clcik easy mode champ. :)

Akali is SO HOT1 votes

Assassins deleting 1 target is a problem, but Viktor deleting 1 target while doing massive amounts of damage to the rest of your team is perfectly fine.

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