oh yasuo has double ctr passive bla bla
ctr? no problem ... buy
a lot of "healing" no problem .. buy
what? you are ap? no problem 
isn't this what you guys comment usually when someone is complaining about ctr and life steal? here you go...
ctr? no problem ... buy
a lot of "healing" no problem .. buy
what? you are ap? no problem 
isn't this what you guys comment usually when someone is complaining about ctr and life steal? here you go...
"But he blocked all of our ults!"
Don't fire all of your ults at Yasuo if you don't know if he has windwall or not.
this.
Honestly amazed that people use this as an argument.
It reminds me to a game where I played MF against Yasuo. Legit every teamfight I made a mental note to not ult unless I see him use windwall.
We won every fight and I never died because of it (having a peeling team helped though).
well.. pretty much if he has his windwall you don't skillshot him ... unless you are a champion with energy instead of mana ...or you deal aoe
So if I'm playing, say...
. If yasuo is in a fight, I guess I can't contribute at all until he's mashed W AND it's worn off?
What a fun champion to play against.
I'm pretty sure people are complaining about his lane mobility, wall and the tornado hitbox as opposed to crit or lifesteal.
let him waste his windshield. .. or pick a champion with no skill shots... and tornado is easy to dodge ..
let him waste his windshield. .. or pick a champion with no skill shots... and tornado is easy to dodge ..
Totally could dodge the tornado when he E right onto you.
Why would a Yasuo waste his wall? I just wasted my skillshot trying to bait it out.
Most champions have some form of a skillshot in the game. The wall also blocks AA because of spaghetti coding.
how about not getting closed to him?
how about not getting closed to him?
How cute. You forgot that he can dash with his E through your minions to you? If there isn't minions, he wouldn't engage anyways.
If your excuse is, don't farm or stay far back, then that's stupid because he effectively zoned you.
You made this post complaining about ad champs getting in range: https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/VEye7v1J-when-someone-has-30-40-life-steal-and-20-attack-speed-and-you-are-ap
Right after telling someone not to get close, i'm lost
And what do I build against a mobility spell (and/or a damage spell) with virtually no cooldown?
You don't. You play around it.
That's not exactly what I'd call fun. If he would have significant cooldowns I could play around those. Having nearly no cooldown on his mobility AND his damage spell is too much.
The cooldown on his mobility is usually on you (though fighting him in a minion wave does suck I won't lie).
There's a lot of stuff I don't find fun in this game. Doesn't mean you can't play around it.
you said something about mobility and fast spells that you can't dodge easy?
Both have cooldowns.
And Rakan's W is easy af to dodge. You can walk out of it.
Saying Yasuo isn't bad because of Fizz is like saying cancer isn't bad because of leukemia.
Well I'm not saying that Fizz is ok the way he is. All I'm saying is that he has cooldowns you can play around if you somehow manage to survive.
Yeah actually I meant to reply to the post above yours. Sorry for the confusion.
yea fizz can 1 shot you though
??
One doesn't justify the other one. The first being obnoxious doesn't justify the second being too strong.
The thing I hate about him is that he has 2 good passives. I know you would say "His shield passive is bad" but really some champions have a really bad passive and in most cases only 1, while
has one decent passive being his shield and one op passive being his double crit.
Also he is really annoying to fight because of his E. being able to constantly dash in and around the lane and jump on you and easily get back out. The E is what people **really ** hate about him the most. I don't feel that he is super op, though I do find him a little to strong...I just find him has one of the most annoying and cancerous champions to fight and that is the reason why he gets banned all the time.
Also not to mention the classic meme which has always been true every time I see a Yasuo...Every time a Yasuo is on my team it's some one who doesn't play him and gets destroyed and becomes useless all game, but every time one is on the enemy team it's a Mastery 7 Yasuo who gets super fed early and is able to 1v5 our team at 20 mins.
Get a couple early kills on him with some cc assistance. I generally take exhaust against him in lane. When most Yas players aren't 6/0 by ten minutes they full out tilt. Play around his kit and mess up his day.
Get a couple early kills on him with some cc assistance. I generally take exhaust against him in lane. When most Yas players aren't 6/0 by ten minutes they full out tilt. Play around his kit and mess up his day.
yea that is true, and i some times would bring
as well, usually only against him or
. I still find him annoying enough that I would rather ban him just to not deal with him, especially when I play immobile and really mana hungry mages like
. Then again that is just my personal feelings towards it
"ctr"? How did you go from "Critical Strike Chance" to "ctr"?
if that's the reason you downvoted the post ... get a life . for real
I didn't down vote your post.
I was curious because I've only run across the abbreviation "CTR" once before, but there it stood for "choose the right".
Dude... what champ are you playing who can build
as core items? Not many tanks build
or
and I can't think of many damage champs who build
.
Oh sure, the TANK can build the tank item and the damage guy the damage ones, but saying "just build X" doesn't mean in lane against him you can or will do both. The tank won't be getting focused anyway, so him taking reduced crit damage won't matter much... if he's getting focused down the Yas is dumb or the tank's entire team is already dead. The healing reduction won't matter much either, since Yas will be three-shotting the squishy damage dealers then healing up AFTERWARDS, if at all. Nevermind that neither item actually lets you CATCH the slippery mofo, just survive an extra hit or three from him or slow his sustain.
No.
vs Zed is a legitimate counter item, since it nullifies his ult and his main opponents are AP mids. Yas goes mid or top and has multiple ways to ruin you or "outplay" you... as well as scaling into a monster just off of farm alone if he CAN'T get kills. It's not even a contest. Go on... pick a tank mid against a Yasuo and rush
... see how well it works out. Or rush
on a squishy, immobile mid and see how much it helps when he can dive and blow you up if you don't live your entire life under tower (sometimes still even then). Then even if you don't feed him, he'll just scale harder off his CS gold than you will, thanks to his bonus crit passive and wreck face midgame anyway.
I get that you're a Yas player and biased as fuck, but the dude is REALLY poorly designed. Not OP. Not UP. Just really poorly designed. He's a frustrating mess that will be loathed no matter what his stats are unless he sees a rework, and he needs to be purposely kept insanely UNDERtuned to not be a complete OP beast due to how overloaded his kit is.
He is a lousy champ because he was designed poorly. He basically forces the enemy to stomp him out or he'll be a monster... and half his tools let him turn around attempts to stomp him out or shut them down with a push of a button. (Talking bout you windwall!) No one wants to have their playstyle dictated to them based on what the enemy picks... but it happens. You have to go aggro on Nasus, for instance. But giving him a ton of tools to not only cockblock the only way to put him down but to turn them around and snowball off of the failed attempts is what makes him so loathed. Nevermind how he is binary as hell and seems to either hard-counter or BE hard countered with little in between. Also no good design. Also not much fun.
oh ok. because when i was talking about me playing tank champions top vs yasuo they would all comment hey "build executioners" etc.. and when i was talking about tanks don't build this thing as a core item for no reason .. they had nothing to say ,than downvoting the comments-post . as they do now..
Shhh...they don't want a solution, they want to bitch
if bitching was a tier they would all be challengers
Not just challenger, they'd be Rank One
I would just want to lane against him without feeling the urge to throw my keyboard out of the window.
And i'm going to rather ban him to play something even more brainless than him because that are the only champs that counter him.