So you're nerfing the hell out of Kalista...

FistOfSharkiesha·Sep 1, 2015·4 votes·1,298 views

But you don't fix the most toxic issue with her at the moment? The fact that she can ult a Blitcrank after he grabs someone, allowing them to grab someone in the middle of a lane and drag them all the way to under their turret is sickening. Blitzcrank's mechanics are already problematic enough without this exploit. The only counterplay is to not stand within 1,000 range of an enemy Blitzcrank.

tl;dr fix the Balista (blitzcrank + kalista) exploit. Whether this is a glitch or intended, I don't care. I never feel like I've been outplayed I feel like I'm playing urf or some different game mode except I lose LP if I lose the game in ranked.

19 Comments

soulway22Sep 1, 20155 votes

If a blitz kalista lane could actually pull that off they deserve it. Its a very hard play to make

FistOfSharkieshaSep 1, 20151 votes

He landed maybe 20% of his hooks or less but every time he landed it they did the ult. That's not skill that's making a play over and over until you get it right.

CrazedPorcupineSep 1, 20151 votes

so, practicing something and working until you've got it perfect isn't skill?

FistOfSharkieshaSep 1, 20151 votes

How on Earth is spamming a skill until you finally hit it skill?

luckmallorySep 1, 20153 votes

Tahm kench exploit is better because you dont have to trust him like blitz. If blitz misses and you ult you waste your ult, if tahm swallows someone, you have four seconds to ult them

CatastropSep 1, 20152 votes

Yeah but this is synergy, whereas Balista is just a bug.

luckmallorySep 1, 20153 votes

Riot has stated multiple times on popular threads that blitz pull into kalista ult is not a bug and was intended. They said it was even before she was released when people asked if it was possible

CatastropSep 1, 20152 votes

Seriously? I would have thought that ulting like that would cancel the pull. Wow, that's super cheese.

FistOfSharkieshaSep 1, 20151 votes

Doesn't change the fact that it's one of the most toxic mechanics in the game. I'm sure they want it for their LCS big plays but I don't want to play a game with that shit happening, whether it's on my team or the enemy.

luckmallorySep 1, 20151 votes

No it isnt lol it is extremely hard to pull off for one and for two there a plenty of wombo's like this. They are combining two abilities to sync them. tons of abilities are supposed to do that. Thats like saying gnar wall banging 3 people then orianna ulting all of them and getting a triple is toxic and bullshit.

P.S. for 2 seasons blitz could land a pull and grab thresh lantern and it only got removed because babies like you complained because they got wrecked by it.

FistOfSharkieshaSep 1, 20151 votes

The difference is that combo is intentional and just does damage, this combo drags you across the map under turret when you're not even overextended.

luckmallorySep 1, 20151 votes

The combo is meant to exist because if not pulled off correctly you can punish them hard. f blitz pulls and kalista ults and misses the pull you can engage on them knowing his pull is down and kalista ult is wasted. In team fights it is even more so if they miss it. High Reward for high risk

joebobby1412Sep 1, 20152 votes

It is pretty high risk. It's an amazingly strong play, but that combination is difficult to accomplish.

Missing Blitz pull normally already opens your whole team up to a bad fight, wasting blitz pull and Kalista ult if you go for it and miss would literally lose you the fight.

Blitz isn't particularly difficult to dodge and lots of champions have dashes, blinks, spell shields, and all manner of other things to protect themselves without needing to click on anything.

IAMS4T4NSep 1, 20151 votes

as long as she can hop all over the place, outsmite, save her support, have infinite spears in someone, and have vision control, i dont think she'll ever be bad. think about it, shes received nothing but nerfs (i think) ever since her release and shes still relevant.

FistOfSharkieshaSep 1, 20151 votes

My post really has nothing to do with the nerfs, I'm saying if they're going to nerf her so hard why don't they just go ahead and change one of the most toxic and broken things about her? At least her raw damage isn't so amazing so I feel okay when I've got someone with a long range like Varus or Ashe with me. But when I get pulled 2000 units away from my adc and I'm taking turret shots there's simply no counterplay to that.

Sakura MirageSep 1, 20151 votes

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as long as she can hop all over the place, outsmite, save her support, have infinite spears in someone, and have vision control, i dont think she'll ever be bad. think about it, shes received nothing but nerfs (i think) ever since her release and shes still relevant.

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PhrelixSep 1, 20151 votes

One counter to this... Don't be an idiot and get grabbed(Mind Blown)! And this can be a thing but.... GRAVES CAN'T HAVE A CIGAR!

TrylobyteSep 1, 20151 votes

I respect anyone that has the coordination to actually pull that off. It requires trust, speed, and finesse to execute and should be rewarded appropriately.

CrazedPorcupineSep 1, 20151 votes

The thing is, Tresh/blitz can do the same thing. Blitz grabs someone, clicks thresh lanturn and pulls someone all they way back.