Can we address creep blocking? Even other creeps are complaining.

Lao Fu the Tiger·Mar 27, 2015·116 votes·7,294 views

No, literally.

Creeps themselves are taking completely different paths because they can't make a path around the physical wall of other creeps.

Skip ahead to 1:40 in this video. Yes, it's funny and entertaining (I've watched it several times and LOL'd hard), but I've seen this happen in a couple games. And it's a tad annoying when you can't even depend on minions to do their job.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlASnHilb0c

I honestly don't know what an ideal solution is, but I was curious if Riot knew how bad creep blocking has become since the new Rift was released. If so, could we get an update as to what (if any) plans are to go about remedying this?

Thanks! :D

62 Comments

TalamareMar 27, 201592 votes

Oh hell nah I'm not engaging on that 6 vs 40

Maybe if we flank them!

Lao Fu the TigerMar 27, 201537 votes

{quoted}

Oh hell nah I'm not engaging on that 6 vs 40

Maybe if we flank them!

If only teammates would think this way in Silver ;-;

TalamareMar 27, 201525 votes

[{quoted}](name=Lao Fu the Tiger,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0JxWvL4b,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2015-03-27T17:42:27.722+0000)

If only teammates would think this way in Silver ;-;

1vs5?

I think you mean...

Pentakill?

Lao Fu the TigerMar 27, 20157 votes

{quoted}

1vs5?

I think you mean...

Pentakill?

Well the minions certainly didn't pentakill the other minions.

Ariel the CruelMar 28, 20152 votes

item 3060 I beg to differ.

terkmcMar 27, 201517 votes

Inside the mind of every Yas and Kat player ever Edit: and Riven and Master Yi

JofeyyMar 27, 201527 votes

I have a legit theory where noob yasuo players feel they are the stars of a samurai anime and try to 1v5 the other team somewhere around the time they get statik shiv

LadyRenlyMar 28, 20155 votes

LOL this is entirely true!

-Yasuo player who thought she was in an anime

JofeyyMar 29, 20153 votes

I say noob yasuos, but i wont lie, when i see 4 enemies with under 20% health i cue the anime intro music.

My mind is telling me noooooo

Ariel the CruelMar 28, 20151 votes

What's your theory on Vayne then?

Rakan GarfieldMar 28, 20152 votes

They try to 1v5 the other team when they get a Doran's blade and health pot.

Ariel the CruelMar 28, 20151 votes

I meant "Why" they do that.

JofeyyMar 29, 20152 votes

"If i keep tumbling i can dodge auto attacks like in the matrix" -Vayne Player

RikariMar 27, 20153 votes

and Riven. Can't forget Riven.

Leti the YetiMar 28, 20151 votes

she's the supposed overpowered antagonist for the samurai anime yasuo's in

usul1202Mar 27, 201530 votes

As someone who enjoys playing 6 stack Chogath , i can honestly say that creep block has made me consider buying a PD as my 6th item just so i can walk down a lane and into combat. it's ridiculous. i am a monster of the void! they move for me! I'll kick the suckers, not path infinitely between them

SpecterVonBarenMar 28, 201516 votes

Ooo. Cho buff, if Cho'Gath has max stacks of Feast, he ignores unit collision, or knocks minions out of his way.

usul1202Mar 28, 20158 votes

That would be so amazing. non-cho players would hardly notice, but cho players everywhere would rejoice.

BLU MedicMar 28, 20152 votes

Or squishes non-cannon minions. Because if a max stacks Cho'Gath stepped on me, I'd probably be squished to death too.

ZGM DazzlingMar 28, 20155 votes

LOL imagine if cho knocked minions out of his way. Lets say there are 3 inhibs down for your team and your whole base is flooded with mininos and u buy homegaurds and run around the base sending minions flying LMAO

ReazaleMar 28, 20151 votes

The mental image its so funny but it wouldnt work cos combat :D

aaronconlinMar 28, 20152 votes

Knocks them out of the way omg pls. Gtfo out of the way Godzilla needs to walk here

SquarefighterMar 27, 201529 votes

Here's a good solution: remove it entirely, at least for friendly creeps. There has literally never been a time when someone dying or losing cs because his or her character glitches out on their own minion wave has ever added something to the game.

ZavernMar 27, 20157 votes

I actually did die as Janna after using my W on an enemy just to have their jungle Rengar kill me because I couldn't get away due to my creeps.

Aids cuz LeagueMar 27, 20152 votes

The worst part is adc's can use PD to just walk right through them, usually tanks are too tanky for it to really matter too much and junglers usually have a gap closer or health regen for it to matter, AD Bruisers usually also have a gap closer or anyone can basically build Phantom Dancer with one real exception: Mages, mages can build Phantom Dancer, but it adds uselessness to their abilities and takes up a slot just so we can walk through minions? There is literally no AP items for us to actually do this, the only way to do it is if we play Fizz, or another champion that can walk through minions like Alistar.. or we play someone like LeBlanc who can hop over them again..

LeeDarkMar 28, 20151 votes

I can beat that. I got completely TRAPPED by creeps as Janna after using my W. I sat there motionless for ten seconds, unable to go anywhere before the enemy cait realized she could just auto me to death and there was nothing I could do. Right after I die, a creep walks away to attack something else...

Stars ShaperMar 27, 201511 votes

But... but.. they just tried to gank! D:

deadlychuckMar 27, 20158 votes

Easy solution, remove.

Seriously though, it's such a random mechanic and feels random. It's not fun to have happen to you and it feels dumb when you get a kill because of it. Champion blocking could be left in the game, but creep blocking is completely unnecessary to the gameplay.

BLU MedicMar 27, 20157 votes

Minions have been acting odd for a while. I've noticed, on blue side, bottom lane, the first wave of minions will often go around the outer turret instead of their normal line. I've seen it happen in other lanes too, but with blue side bottom, it's pretty consistent and happens in every bot game.

TheMobius40Mar 29, 20151 votes

I have seen this as well...

KikirinoMar 27, 20156 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvJYzQkO6W4

Yeah... this happens and sucks ass. Creep blocking has been an issue for way too long.

RasCaelestisMar 27, 20152 votes

I had the exact same thing happen to me a few games ago. I was Nautilus and I dove an enemy, my ADC killed them, I got creep-blocked, and died under the tower. Luckily I only got executed, but it was still really annoying.

Takeuchi 17Mar 27, 20155 votes

hahaha wow. such bull. I feel like creep blocking has become pretty bad even for champions trying to walk through their own minions

TotalJerkMar 27, 20154 votes

Creep blocking has numerous times determined the outcome of a gank, dive, or hard engage in matches I've played. It gets especially obnoxious lategame when there's 3 lanes of them duking it out around the Nexus.

FantasySniperMar 28, 20153 votes

Anyone ever seen them walk around bot turret?

I have.

3tysonMar 27, 20152 votes

Lol thats weird never seen it happen in game do

ZtokaMar 27, 20152 votes

The pathing has been garbage this season.. Creeps are so tiny, mid-big champs should be able to walk right over the top of em. Tiny champs should have to go around since they are closer to the same size.

Lore VentusMar 28, 20152 votes

Swain : I see that rito allowed my troops in Summoner's rift.

OyddAWqJ5rMar 28, 20152 votes

Ninja Hecarim nerf?! D: Oh well, for every non- Hecarim champ I play I feel the pain. Especially when you dive turret and your caster minions form a perfect wall to Azir -block you.

DarkLiquidDeathMar 28, 20152 votes

I tried playing Singed. Enemies can literally walk around minions in circles while kiting me now :( I honestly don't know how Riot messed the new minions up so much. It's the one thing in this game that I can't stand. Hopefully Riot fixes it soon, but I'm pretty sure it's intentional.

Captain AishiMar 28, 20152 votes

had a game last night where i got ganked by a canon minion while doing raptor camp...

SammystormMar 28, 20152 votes

relevant

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4W8mMY24Bew

Vegas DadMar 28, 20151 votes

no literally can we address your inability to actually click around to you know move? RAWR i try to click and let my guy auto walk through a wall of creeps OP OP riot fix broken creep block! Heaven forbid any amount of skill make its way into the game.

IForgot2buyBootsMar 28, 20154 votes

The clicking around isn't the issue. The issue is the creeps literally box you in, so your champ just spazzes in a small circle til the scrum ends or he/she dies.

KairyaMar 28, 20151 votes

Blocking can be useful though. As an Anivia player it's always a way to land my Q, because my opponents blocked their own escape off... Other champions can probably profit similarly... It makes positioning in or around minionwaves detrimental for landing or dodging skillshots, especially during laning phase.

Champion SkinMar 28, 20151 votes

Though it is kind of sad that there is only one item in the game which gives you the ability to pass through units... item 3046 And that item is almost only usable by ADC...

KairyaMar 28, 20152 votes

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Though it is kind of sad that there is only one item in the game which gives you the ability to pass through units... And that item is almost only usable by ADC...

Yes they could probably give PD passive to other items as well...

SolusInCadereMar 29, 20151 votes

I like how this is a post about the creeps taking a weird path instead of right before then the Wukong getting knocked back like half way across the map

Edit: just look about 15 sec before the 1:40 mark

LemurMonsterMar 29, 20151 votes

Glad someone brought this up here. It's got so bad that seen often even the bots get stuck as well other players. Though its pretty dumb they can block flash to when you can use it to go through walls! wut...