why cant we report people outside the game lobby?

Critmaster Garen·May 24, 2016·2 votes·278 views

on one hand it would make reports off spectated games possible, if someone is really obviously feeding to throw a game or being boosted by a premade.

on the other hand it would let us check peoples match history as evidence and then issue a report. something thats currently not possible in post game lobbies.

i just faced a guy with literally bronze mechanics in a rating he shouldnt be. i dont know if hes been boosted there, or his teammates were still carrying him since youre not letting us know who has qued up together. (which would be appreciated with your dynamic bullshit)

4 Comments

archerno1May 24, 20161 votes

Boosting with premade is allowed. Why would u report it?

Critmaster GarenMay 24, 20161 votes

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Boosting with premade is allowed. Why would u report it?

first of all, it doesnt always have to be boosting with a premade.

second, its still cheating and shouldnt be allowed. its ruins games for everyone. the idiot is playing in a dvision he doesnt belong and will destroy his teammates chances of climbing (especially when he decides to que up solo). its the same reasoning why direct account boosting is forbidden. it ruins competitive integrity. if were allowing dynamic boosting, we might aswell allow high tier players to get payed by playing on these accounts directly. its pretty much the same thing.

third, the other points like catching a particular toxic player via spectator game, and being able to report people based on ther match history remain valid. you can acutally at times identify an account thats being boosted quite well. mainly when the guy suddenly plays entirely different champions than his mains with noticably higher winrate (k/d/a) and cs count, uses different summoners, uses the same summoners suddenly on other buttons etc.

archerno1May 24, 20161 votes

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first of all, it doesnt always have to be boosting with a premade.

second, its still cheating and shouldnt be allowed. its ruins games for everyone. the idiot is playing in a dvision he doesnt belong and will destroy his teammates chances of climbing. its the same reasoning why direct account boosting is forbidden. it ruins competitive integrity. if were allowing dynamic boosting, we might aswell allow high tier players to get payed by playing on these accounts directly. its pretty much the same thing.

third, the other points like catching a particular toxic player via spectator game, and being able to report people based on ther match history remain valid. you can acutally at times identify an account thats being boosted quite well. mainly when the guy suddenly plays entirely different champions with higher winrate and cs count, uses different summoners, uses the same summoners suddenly on other buttons etc.

You are one who mentioned boosting with premade. Whether it should or should not be allowed is not yours to decide, neither is mine. Riot decided its allowed, that only time boosting is illegal is if booster logs another players account to boost it. Again your opinions on dynamic boosting is irrelevant , no matter about competitive integrity. Riot allows it, so reporting it is just fake reporting, and lowers value of your future reports. 1 report per game counts, there are 9 players to report toxic player. Why would there be need for spectator to do it? With Dynamic queue, even your last part is not true. If u have 4 smurfs carrying you to higher elo and thye ask u to play certain champion u never played before for some buff or something and just tell u what to do in game, it cant be proven that its illegal boosting.

So if u somehow get proof that other person logged on someones account to boost him, report it. Otherwise dont bother.

Critmaster GarenMay 24, 20161 votes

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You are one who mentioned boosting with premade. Whether it should or should not be allowed is not yours to decide, neither is mine. Riot decided its allowed, that only time boosting is illegal is if booster logs another players account to boost it. Again your opinions on dynamic boosting is irrelevant , no matter about competitive integrity. Riot allows it, so reporting it is just fake reporting, and lowers value of your future reports. 1 report per game counts, there are 9 players to report toxic player. Why would there be need for spectator to do it? With Dynamic queue, even your last part is not true. If u have 4 smurfs carrying you to higher elo and thye ask u to play certain champion u never played before for some buff or something and just tell u what to do in game, it cant be proven that its illegal boosting.

So if u somehow get proof that other person logged on someones account to boost him, report it. Otherwise dont bother.

my last part was in regards to direct account boosting. even with dynamic boost existing, this is still a thing and youll find these people from time to time.

i still think everyone should report dynamic boosting, even if its officially allowed. when enough negative feedback about their system reaches riot, they might actually recognize that there is a problem.

right now there is 0 possibility to give feedback otherwise due to the lack of alternatives.

weve already heared from riot that theyre not paying much attention to the forums. and posting individual cases is not allowed due to "name shaming". this leaves only the report system.