Because thematically all I see is a potential for "spam-mage", even more fitting than it is for Ryze. So now that Riot admitted that his rework that was specifically tailored for AD Kog and left AP Kog in the dust... maybe a long/mid-ranged spam-mage might be the better and more healthy approach?
Also, a mechanic for eating minions and jungle monsters might be worth a shot... Kog'Maw is all about eating after all.
Mimy4 votes
SPAM THE Rs
MunchCrunchLunch1 votes
AirKingNeo1 votesYeah, I think that's the build.
XeroKimo1 votesWhere the rylais and luden's at? Land one ult huge burst, and easy consecutive ults
AirKingNeo1 votesTrue. No ludens though, Morello is 10x better. Either drop Void, RoA, or Morello.
Marshbouy2 votesum. Yeah? A long range AP spam mage is inherently terrible for the game.
SaltyToplaneGoat6 votes
would like to have a word with you...
Mimy6 votes
too
SaltyToplaneGoat4 votesDon't forget about 
who also kinda falls into the category, even tho his range is not as big as the max ranges of Ziggs and Xerath when it comes to basic abilities...
Ackelope1 votesI think the range on his Q if you geometry it is potentially as high or higher than those two guys' basic abilities.
Marshbouy1 votesLow CD does not mean "spam" in my opinion. When i think of spam i think "season 5 ryze" spam. PS, xerath is burst mage with low CD, same with ziggs.
50000000000000001 votesRyze was unhealthy because the CC was spammable. Long range spam should be fine, with gating mechanisms (like increasing mana cost on R).
LaughingStapler1 votesum. Yeah? A long range AP spam mage is inherently terrible for the game.
Not really; everything can be balanced given proper weaknesses.
AirKingNeo1 votesIt's dodgeable. It's no Azir.
xReadyPlayerOnex2 votesYeah... for a guy with a huge appetite... he mostly just throws up... I think it's a disorder...
50000000000000002 votesIt's interesting how his lore is all about eating and his kit has nothing to do with eating. Maybe make his passive into eating a minion/monster for sustain?
Something like a Targon's Brace for yourself only. If you attack a minion or a monster under X health (scaling with level+AD), you execute the minion and gain Y health (scaling with level).
Rebonack1 votesUnfortunately Riot has decided that the old AP Kog was 'unhealthy' for the game and 'painful' to play against, so the likelihood of AP Kog ever coming back looks grim.
AirKingNeo1 votesI feel he should be a Artillery Mage / Marksmen Hybrid. With AP builds in either role for his R cannon.
His E slows, his Q should have relatively low cooldown and medium damage, and his W should be a range mod plus some attack speed and % HP damage. His Q and W allow him to CS and trade. Also, add some kind of AD ratio to his ult. Then AD Kog would probably be 
or something.
Vallalan1 voteseh old ap kog was cancer.
fun as fuck, but cancer. took forever to scale but once you got there, pretty much zero counterplay in siege situations. if your team didnt have hard engage you flat out lose to ap kog. his massive range on ult would have to be nerfed if they made him an ap mage.
I think he's fine as an adc. He just needs buffs. He's the void puppy you take care of until he gets his items and then protect while he melts everyone.
JackMcSnipeyz1 votesHe is fine as is, tune him to bring his AD up to par and you got one of the last well rounded champions that can go both AD and AP
Haselnussstrauch1 voteswhere did they admit that they left ap kog in the dust ? what did i miss xD
