Kalista Fix

Space Bum·Feb 20, 2015·2 votes·607 views

Energy, and make her passive drain it, increasing amounts with each jump.

13 Comments

vC48YNoGbJFeb 20, 20152 votes

I don't understand. You want her to stand still when she's not hopping around in order to charge energy to hop around?

Space BumFeb 20, 20151 votes

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I don't understand. You want her to stand still when she's not hopping around in order to charge energy to hop around?

Yes. I'm not saying make it a huge cost. Let her jump 20 times. Then it's time to calm that shit down.

Her model glows right? Make it dim as she gets low on energy when she bottoms out have a buffer time where she has to gain so much energy before her passive kicks back in. In that buffer time she can cancel autos like a normal adc. When her model pops back to bright you know that you are good to go.

vC48YNoGbJFeb 20, 20153 votes

It's a passive so you can't toggle it. In other words you want her responsiveness to be akin to Gnar's ult, uncontrollable and situational? I don't like the sound of that at all.

Space BumFeb 20, 20152 votes

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It's a passive so you can't toggle it. In other words you want her responsiveness to be akin to Gnar's ult, uncontrollable and situational? I don't like the sound of that at all.

It's very controllable. If she has an energy bar. You can see the energy. You should be able to judge your capabilities by the amount of energy you have. Think of it like a mage. You are not going to try and pull something that costs 300mana when you only have 100mana. I don't see how this is complicated.

vC48YNoGbJFeb 20, 20152 votes

That's exactly like Gnar's rage bar.

Space BumFeb 20, 20151 votes

[{quoted}](name=Perfect Blue,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=0EekpqAy,comment-id=00000000000000000000,timestamp=2015-02-20T00:37:34.455+0000)

That's exactly like Gnar's rage bar.

False. Gnar's rage bar is a timer for his ult. Energy is a resource. Energy can be gained over time without doing anything. Rage has to be built up through attacks. Furthermore, Gnar is technically 100% cooldown based. Energy Champs rely on a resource + cooldowns.

Space BumFeb 20, 20151 votes

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That's exactly like Gnar's rage bar.

You should look up the term "abstract thought" . It's a common mental mechanic used in the processing of information. In varying severitys of autism it can up to completely absent.

Space BumFeb 20, 20151 votes

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That's exactly like Gnar's rage bar.

More interested in down voting than explaining how you don't understand the difference between rage/fury and energy? I'm sure you think kennen is a Gnar ripoff.

vC48YNoGbJFeb 20, 20151 votes

Must not say it. Must not say it. Must not say it.

U MAD BRO?

God damn it, there I go.

I was talking about the specific element of being unable to toggle between walking and hopping at will, exactly like I said. I don't get the relationship between Kennen and Gnar so I don't get your insult.

DisasterSolaFeb 20, 20151 votes

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It's very controllable. If she has an energy bar. You can see the energy. You should be able to judge your capabilities by the amount of energy you have. Think of it like a mage. You are not going to try and pull something that costs 300mana when you only have 100mana. I don't see how this is complicated.

this is one of the better ideas ive seen, but if your problem is perpetuality, it would still have the same problem because in energy kits, interaction usually recovers energy.

Kalista has a lot of interaction: Q interacts with E, AA interacts with E, W interacts with AAs, R would recover energy because its not damage.

Id think that each stack of rend on a target returns 1 energy when consumed, and rend itself refunds its cost if the enemy is killed.

Space BumFeb 20, 20151 votes

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this is one of the better ideas ive seen, but if your problem is perpetuality, it would still have the same problem because in energy kits, interaction usually recovers energy.

Kalista has a lot of interaction: Q interacts with E, AA interacts with E, W interacts with AAs, R would recover energy because its not damage.

Id think that each stack of rend on a target returns 1 energy when consumed, and rend itself refunds its cost if the enemy is killed.

There is no energy champ that can endlessly chain their abilities. Nothing returns the full amount spent. And energy can be gained over time with 0 interaction.

Space BumFeb 20, 20151 votes

I'd be more inclined to believe you are the one that is upset. You cannot possibly have read and comprehended anything I have said. I clearly spelled it out and someone else understood it perfectly, but let's dumb it down even more.

Kalista will from now on use energy instead of mana. (The same resource used by Kennen, Alkali, Zed, ect...)
Her passive will drain a small amount of energy. If she jumps repeatedly in quick succession the energy cost rises with each jump.
If She tries to Jump and does not have sufficient energy her passive essentially goes on cooldown until let's say she gets at least 25% Energy. During this cooldown Kalista's auto attacks function like any other ADC(she does not leap and may cancel attack animations)