https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3000297066/41759027?tab=overview
More games then not are like this. I carry but lose because its 4v6 more often then not.
Riot your system is broken.
klin5374 votesThe worst part is, they have challenger players now doing their stupid "unranked to challenger" challenges, to try to prove that it's possible to get out of elo hell. But a player like you isn't challenger level, just better than the people he gets on his team. Because it's really RNG whether you get decent teammates (or noob enemies), it's near impossible for someone in this situation to climb.
I've had games where I absolutely dumpstered the enemy laners, only to get dumpstered the next game by better player. At this point I don't even know what elo I'm in; it seems like 1 in 5 bronze players are smurfing challengers and it's a coin flip as to whether those smurfs land on my team or the other team.
ZephyrDrake3 votesThe worst part is, they have challenger players now doing their stupid "unranked to challenger" challenges, to try to prove that it's possible to get out of elo hell. But a player like you isn't challenger level, just better than the people he gets on his team. Because it's really RNG whether you get decent teammates (or noob enemies), it's near impossible for someone in this situation to climb.
I've had games where I absolutely dumpstered the enemy laners, only to get dumpstered the next game by better player. At this point I don't even know what elo I'm in; it seems like 1 in 5 bronze players are smurfing challengers and it's a coin flip as to whether those smurfs land on my team or the other team.
seems to me more of you being inconsistent than anything else. Those players doing "unranked to whatever" challenges are doing it for a reason. You don't need to be challenger lvl to get out of "elo hell" you need to improve and be consistent. You can go 15/0/13 one game if you are going 0/10/4 the next then you should learn how to average those stats out or how to get more of the first game than the second. The ones who climb are those who are not only good but consistent.
klin5372 votes"Be more consistent" You're literally telling me to git gud. Thanks for the advice, I'll look into it.
ZephyrDrake2 votes"Be more consistent" You're literally telling me to git gud. Thanks for the advice, I'll look into it.
well, if you are not consistent you cannot climb. Simple as that. The biggest difference between bronze and gold is how consistent the players are.
klin5372 votesSee you keep saying "be consistent". What OP(and myself) are trying to say is that bronze games themselves aren't consistent. One game you verse someone who's bad and the next you verse someone who's good (likely a smurf), and you stay at 50% winrate (makes for slow climb).
ZephyrDrake2 votesSee you keep saying "be consistent". What OP(and myself) are trying to say is that bronze games themselves aren't consistent. One game you verse someone who's bad and the next you verse someone who's good (likely a smurf), and you stay at 50% winrate (makes for slow climb).
and guess what? if you want to climb you have to be consistent yourself. Screw whatever the other 9 people are doing. Focus on yourself. How do you make yourself not have the 0/10 or whatever games and more of the 10/0 ones. How do you take advantage of any lead you can take. How do you help around the map. There aren't that many smurfs, it's people who are inconsistent and will play great one game and then play like a monkey the very next one. People who have insanely good games in one and then fall over completely the next regardless of the skill of the opponent. If you compare low rank to mid rank players the main difference is not going to be mechanical skill, it's there but it's not the biggest difference. The biggest difference is actually knowing how to lose gracefully, take advantage of their leads. They will still have terrible games, but you put them in low elo games and they will more than likely just solo carry the vast majority of them. All you need to do to climb is be more consistent than those around you. When you do that everything else will slowly follow
klin5371 votesQuick peek at your op.gg. Hows that consistency going out for you? You aren't challenger yet. Just admit it, sometimes the enemy is just better than you. I am consistent[ly bad]. It's just that there is an element of RNG as to whether the person I go against is worse than me or people who are better than me.
BTW It's clear that you thought about this a lot and I just feel like telling you that statistically speaking, the real differnece between good and bad players is deaths. Challenger players have slightly better stats then bronze in every department, but the biggest difference by far is # of deaths per game. Just some food for thought.
ZephyrDrake1 votesQuick peek at your op.gg. Hows that consistency going out for you? You aren't challenger yet. Just admit it, sometimes the enemy is just better than you. I am consistent[ly bad]. It's just that there is an element of RNG as to whether the person I go against is worse than me or people who are better than me.
BTW It's clear that you thought about this a lot and I just feel like telling you that statistically speaking, the real differnece between good and bad players is deaths. Challenger players have slightly better stats then bronze in every department, but the biggest difference by far is # of deaths per game. Just some food for thought.
I never said I was good. I never said I was a challenger player. So thanks for looking at something that I never hide? I would be the very first person to say that he is a hard stuck silver scrub, I don't blame it on smurfs or my teammates or matchmaking though. I blame myself for having great games and completely useless games in the same day. There is always someone better that doesn't mean you shouldn't try to increase how consistent you are. That doesn't mean that you shouldn't stop trying to improve. I always do something that helps me improve, whether it's looking at high elo games, trying new things and see how they are, learning new champions if possible. I try to improve, I don't give a damn about what anyone else does, I just try my best and give it my all. Sometimes that is enough to win, other times it's not. Sometimes I play like a monkey, other times I play like god, and other times I play like an average person. How do I climb? less monkey games more of the average and god ones
klin5373 votes"How do I climb? less monkey games more of the average and god ones" Yeah basically you're just telling us all to get better. Very true, but easier said than done. Anyway I'm done for the night so if you want to reply i probly won't be back.
ZephyrDrake1 votes"How do I climb? less monkey games more of the average and god ones" Yeah basically you're just telling us all to get better. Very true, but easier said than done. Anyway I'm done for the night so if you want to reply i probly won't be back.
wow, it's like getting to high elo requires you to actually get better at the game or something? you are low elo? then guess what? you are not as good as you think you are regardless of your stats. Simple as that
5050BS1 votesThere are tons of Smurfs. More every season because they get hard stuck in their Elo and want to feel good about themselves by trolling lower rank games. There are more streamers every season wanting to get viewers by playing in lower Ranks to ether stomp or out right troll games to get viewers.
Also if you are better then the rank you are in but NOT a smurf you will see more smurfs on the enemies team because Riot thinks you are a way to "balanced" the teams. Their system is so bad and each season it gets worse and worse.
Dynikus2 votesThere are tons of Smurfs. More every season because they get hard stuck in their Elo and want to feel good about themselves by trolling lower rank games. There are more streamers every season wanting to get viewers by playing in lower Ranks to ether stomp or out right troll games to get viewers.
Also if you are better then the rank you are in but NOT a smurf you will see more smurfs on the enemies team because Riot thinks you are a way to "balanced" the teams. Their system is so bad and each season it gets worse and worse.
The sooner you take responsibility for your games and focus on improving yourself, the sooner you might actually start improving. If you keep talking yourself up to be much better than the other players in your games, and it's just your teammates holding you back, you're never going to reflect on your games and decisions objectively, since in your mind you aren't the one causing you to lose a majority of your games. Blame an imaginary elo hell, pretend every game you lose is just because the enemy team had smurfs, say your teammates are at fault every time if you want, but at the end of the day, they're all false excuses you're using to cope with not being able to climb.
5050BS1 votesSpoken like a true smurf
Best Ekko NA1 votesThe sooner you take responsibility for your games and focus on improving yourself, the sooner you might actually start improving. If you keep talking yourself up to be much better than the other players in your games, and it's just your teammates holding you back, you're never going to reflect on your games and decisions objectively, since in your mind you aren't the one causing you to lose a majority of your games. Blame an imaginary elo hell, pretend every game you lose is just because the enemy team had smurfs, say your teammates are at fault every time if you want, but at the end of the day, they're all false excuses you're using to cope with not being able to climb.
Nice, what type of game are you talking about? A single player game? It's good to know that League of Legends is a game of one real player and a bunch of AI where you can win everytime. Do you want some real numbers? A single person on a team is only 10 percent of the total influence of a League of Legends match. That's right, only 10 percent. On your team, you only control 20 percent of what goes on. That means the other 80 percent is controlled by your teammates. Even if you play a perfect match every single time, there is no guarantee that you're still going to will because you're still only 10 percent of the match.
Even a good player cannot win matches where his or her entire team is feeding. It's simply a fact. You want some other good information? Accounts with a longstanding history get placed in much more difficult matches than newer accounts. Every year I have made it to gold easily with almost a 60 percent win rate on a new account. On this account, I cannot even climb out of Silver. Hell, right now I am having a rough time climbing out of Bronze. I can guarantee however that if I made another account and played ranked on it, that I would easily once again make it back to Gold. The matchmaking is rigged, and I have years of proof regarding it. About a year after I started playing, around Season 3, I started testing the system because I knew something seemed off, and it is. New accounts get way easier matches than accounts that have many games played on them.
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Do you want some real numbers? A single person on a team is only 10 percent of the total influence of a League of Legends match. That's right, only 10 percent. On your team, you only control 20 percent of what goes on.
I thought you said real numbers? You're 1 out of 5 on your team, but you can easily influence more than just 20% of what happens on your team. Not every teammate is contributing an equal amount every game. Your 1/8 adc that's farming all game sure as shit isn't contributing as much as your 10/0 toplaner that just destroyed top lane inhib by themselves and soloed baron.
Even a good player cannot win matches where his or her entire team is feeding. It's simply a fact.
It depends on the degree to which your team is feeding, but you're right, you probably won't win a game where you whole team is hard losing. That doesn't happen every game though, and you absolutely can influence your games to win more than you lose.
You want some other good information? Accounts with a longstanding history get placed in much more difficult matches than newer accounts. Every year I have made it to gold easily with almost a 60 percent win rate on a new account. On this account, I cannot even climb out of Silver. Hell, right now I am having a rough time climbing out of Bronze. I can guarantee however that if I made another account and played ranked on it, that I would easily once again make it back to Gold. The matchmaking is rigged, and I have years of proof regarding it. About a year after I started playing, around Season 3, I started testing the system because I knew something seemed off, and it is. New accounts get way easier matches than accounts that have many games played on them.
You don't actually have proof of that, and there's no reason for riot to do that, nor would it even really be feasible for them to. It would make the code for matchmaking a lot more complicated than it needs to be for no reason other than to screw over their long term players. With how riot's changed ranked this season, maybe you just got lucky on your other accounts and won enough to get in gold, since your early unranked mmr and lp gains are are lot more substantial than on an account that already has a lot of games played on it. A gold player last season isn't going to necessarily be gold this season.
Best Ekko NA1 votesI thought you said real numbers? You're 1 out of 5 on your team, but you can easily influence more than just 20% of what happens on your team. Not every teammate is contributing an equal amount every game. Your 1/8 adc that's farming all game sure as shit isn't contributing as much as your 10/0 toplaner that just destroyed top lane inhib by themselves and soloed baron.
It depends on the degree to which your team is feeding, but you're right, you probably won't win a game where you whole team is hard losing. That doesn't happen every game though, and you absolutely can influence your games to win more than you lose.
You don't actually have proof of that, and there's no reason for riot to do that, nor would it even really be feasible for them to. It would make the code for matchmaking a lot more complicated than it needs to be for no reason other than to screw over their long term players. With how riot's changed ranked this season, maybe you just got lucky on your other accounts and won enough to get in gold, since your early unranked mmr and lp gains are are lot more substantial than on an account that already has a lot of games played on it. A gold player last season isn't going to necessarily be gold this season.
See you are talking like you are better than your team, that's your entire basis of everything you keep saying. So don't bag on someone for believing they are better than their team. Otherwise everything you've said is complete bs.
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See you are talking like you are better than your team, that's your entire basis of everything you keep saying. So don't bag on someone for believing they are better than their team. Otherwise everything you've said is complete bs.
Uhh... sorry, what? I'm saying if you aren't climbing, you aren't consistently better than your team, and you're not in any kind of "elo hell". If you were consistently better than your team, you would win more games than you lose, and you would climb.
5050BS2 votesCant be "Consistent" when its the MMing that is inconsistent.
ZephyrDrake2 votesCant be "Consistent" when its the MMing that is inconsistent.
sure that is why I see people climbing up the ladder constantly. You can make every excuse you want. It's up to you to improve and get consistent at the game. You don't want to and just rather blame your team and smurfs? go ahead, that will get you nowhere and fast
Mavëríck1 votesseems to me more of you being inconsistent than anything else. Those players doing "unranked to whatever" challenges are doing it for a reason. You don't need to be challenger lvl to get out of "elo hell" you need to improve and be consistent. You can go 15/0/13 one game if you are going 0/10/4 the next then you should learn how to average those stats out or how to get more of the first game than the second. The ones who climb are those who are not only good but consistent.
They are doing it to get views from dumb idiots while they shit up the match making for everyone else.
Their very presence in low elo as Challenger tier players poisons the entire well. You cannot deny it, especially when actual rank is some arbitrary "hidden MMR" that only the Riot overlords can see. Those Challenger players can quickly and mechanically inflate their MMR to climb faster granted, but it's just slow enough for them to carry their teams slightly higher and force other players lower. It creates a chain reaction that fucks up the entire system.
ZephyrDrake1 votesThey are doing it to get views from dumb idiots while they shit up the match making for everyone else.
Their very presence in low elo as Challenger tier players poisons the entire well. You cannot deny it, especially when actual rank is some arbitrary "hidden MMR" that only the Riot overlords can see. Those Challenger players can quickly and mechanically inflate their MMR to climb faster granted, but it's just slow enough for them to carry their teams slightly higher and force other players lower. It creates a chain reaction that fucks up the entire system.
you have said nothing, why are you replying to me after almost a week. Oh noes! they will give someone ONE victory while giving the other team ONE defeat... that sure is enough for the system to be utterly destroyed. Thanks for the great insight... DO NOT REPLY TO ME!
Nik Nikerson7 votesI hate to break the news to you, but if it's impossible to climb, that means you're at the right level. If you can't get out of bronze, you are a bronze player. Yes, luck and variance play their parts, but a player that actually deserves to be in plat will eventually end up in plat, even if it takes a while. I know it's a blow to the ego, but most people are silver or below players.
6 Years Unranked2 votesElo is not an acronym.
5050BS1 votesMy next game https://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3000325649/41759027?tab=overview
We had Yi and Yasuo dead so I called for Barron and Ram didnt want to do it (because at some point he got pissed or something) and proceeded to solo the jungle and die 4 time to Quinn throwing the game.
Dynikus1 votesitt: k/d/a players that don't go for objectives with their leads complain that they don't win games
If you're that far ahead, do something with your lead. End the game before the enemy team gets shutdown gold on you, catches up, and wins.
FioraWillCarry1 votesHow can he do anything? They have an intentional feeder on their team. That game was 4v5.
FioraWillCarry1 votesI hope you reported Elise. Intentional feeders should be punished.
Ibustbuttcheeks1 votesSilver is Elo Hell. Had an Akali dc for the first 3 minutes then goes into lane trying to solo kill the enemy zed that has been free farming for almost 5 minutes. While my bot ints and top ints before I can even finish my 2nd clear. Then I get an Ahri that says hold mid I'll brb in 5 seconds and never comes back. Silver elo is a fucking shit show and I have no idea how a lot of these guys got to Silver. The account I have now is fresh and won like 5 out of 8 games and placed bbronze 2 then climbed to silver 3 until I got demoted to silver 4. Some games i'm even getting fucking iron 1 players in my game with abysmal win rates that aren't duoing. It's fucking patheitc. Riot needs to fix this shit
DecapitationKing1 voteshttps://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/3000297066/41759027?tab=overview
More games then not are like this. I carry but lose because its 4v6 more often then not.
Riot your system is broken.
your yi sucked, but look at your objective damage and wards placed. you are obviously focusing on kills and not objectives which is why you lost
GAMING451 votesFucking stupid people, always saying its possible. ITS NOT!!! Riot System dont let u go up! ITS true! When they see u can carry several games, they force put in iron players vs platinum players, and WE are in what place?? 1 vs 9, U cant! Guys this see,s like q cosparacy but its true! they chosse what people they want in high elo! U think is high elo who gives money to them?? Its the silver and gold players! and they stuck u to force u PLay. See when ur mmr gets down, mid end season, and in the end they let u get gold or plat to u go play again next season. I give up!!!
