The rework has actually made Tank Fizz stronger. It added back his amazing base damages and then added more sustained damage to him due to his W having such a low cool down and it still existing in the first place. Having to deal with Assassin-like mobility and defensive utility while also having a large health pool and at least decent damage is really angering to play against.
Fed by Snu Snu6 votesIt's ok because he falls off late game though because he can be peeled off ADCs and thus lose teamfights.
That's what papa Rito told me to reply with when defending freelo.
Faustavian1 votesActually, this is mostly true tbh.
By playing a Tanky fizz, (I run 
and 
as only damage items used) I essentially sacrifice my late game damage of an AP assassin fizz, in favor of a more mid-game dominance and survivability in skirmishes.
Literally, buy one armor or MR(if RoA-tank) item and his damage is almost 0. The only reason that build even works is because of super, SUPER squishy carries/supports trying to 1v1 or stray from the pack.
And lategame, you have the damage of a bruiser in a burst and the survivability of a tank due to the troll pole. But once it's down, he's quite easy pickings. The carry should buy a 
and the team should sufficiently peel, making the game is an easy peachy cake walk.
Assuming you didn't feed in the mid game power-spike that it provides, then you done fcked up
Miror B3 votesThe problem in general is that his bonus damage w will always make tank sets viable unless they add direct 0-x scaling off it and force him to build AP (as opposed to giving him a flat base damage on it). Fix that, and people probably won't see a legitimate reason to build him full tank.
Alotopatomus1 votesI always see people crying about Fizz just learn to play against him. So maybe he is good against your favorite champions well there are 150+ champs in league time to learn to play somebody else.
Meep Man4 votesCan you provide me with some tips on how to play against Tank Fizz in the Top Lane?
Alotopatomus1 votesSure, play champs that don't need to beat him and can survive his all in potential. There are a ton that can do this. 
just to list a few. Also focus on getting other lanes going by effectively using TP and assisting with objective taking. Protect your backline and tank fizz is just a bad tank.
Pommel Knight2 votesHere are tips from a Diamond fizz main.
First off Fizz top isn't a tank, not until his 3rd or 4th item, he is squishy before that and excels in short burst trades. So anyone tanky or aa based with a dash or aa enhancer works. Fizz can't duel you with aa's he want's to make you miss abilities or run around you until he has w ready.
Fizz will build mostly ad items, but that doesn't mean he has no ap dmg. Early on the majority of his dmg is ap, so build mr. Spectra cowl is the best for this, but don't finish it. It's passive is great against fizz w dot, it gives you hp regen for the dmg w does (the dot does no dmg, base hp regen on tanky champs is stronger). W dot will reset the passive and you get more heal. After you get that get tabi, because at that point he will start to aa more and get ad dmg items (Sheen, phage). This will reduce his ad dmg a lot and he won't be able to duel you.
Dodge the god damn ult, it's not hard. The missal speed is literary slower than morgana q. Without it he wont be able to insta prock w and cc combo you. Without it he can't go in on you if you have more than 45% hp.
Abuse Fizz whenever he sues e early. It's on 16 sec cdr, he's helpless then. Ask for ganks or start poking him because he is not safe and can't win a trade.
Go juggernauts, they beat him. Juggernauts are tanky and do dmg, as well as being great in prolonged fights and can force them. Champions like 
(max w first, q will be dodged), , 
(best choice, counter fizz top completely), (w negates his burst abilities, also go on him with q and turn e on when he jumps and off when he lands to q him), 
(E max, passive is too much for fizz but needs to go tanky items), 
(fuck this guy), (negates aa's and is too tanky to kill while doing a lot of dmg).
Hope this helps. Top Fizz is a result of a un-necessary rework that left his ap build too unreliable and one hit wonder.
Penns2 votesPommel Knight1 votesFixed, google autocorrects anything with un, or anything more than 2 words in it. Even Autocorrects is, ironically, corrected to auto-correct
Troll for Trump1 votesOK, see the problem is all of those are just really, really unviable. Yes, you go out of your way to counter a champ, but not THAT far out of your way. Darius can't hit Q vs a competent Fizz, but maxing W will severely cripple his midgame. Shen's been nerfed a fk ton. Cho'gath sucks as a laner. IDK about Grags. Garen is horrible in high elo. Panth is possible, but idk how he fares in diamond.
Counterpick isn't counterplay.
He basically has the same problems Ekko top had with top laners, and that's agency.
You don't get to decide when to fight, Fizz does. His mobility and tools are meant to deal with more mobile/ ranged champs in mid lane, not immobile champs. When dealing with immobile champs(like ADCs), he excels, because he has agency over when to fight, and when to not fight.
His R is dodgeable if you have mobility. If you're a big fat tank or juggernaut, gl.
Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votesFirst off Fizz top isn't a tank, not until his 3rd or 4th item, he is squishy before that and excels in short burst trades. So anyone tanky or aa based with a dash or aa enhancer works. Fizz can't duel you with aa's he want's to make you miss abilities or run around you until he has w ready.
not true... he can go rush tankiness first item... if against a squishy. Btw he's hard to deal with his 
Fizz will build mostly ad items, but that doesn't mean he has no ap dmg. Early on the majority of his dmg is ap, so build mr. Spectra cowl is the best for this, but don't finish it. It's passive is great against fizz w dot, it gives you hp regen for the dmg w does (the dot does no dmg, base hp regen on tanky champs is stronger). W dot will reset the passive and you get more heal. After you get that get tabi, because at that point he will start to aa more and get ad dmg items (Sheen, phage). This will reduce his ad dmg a lot and he won't be able to duel you.
ok, ill note it...
Dodge the god damn ult, it's not hard.
... where's the Kappa ?
Top Fizz is a result of a un-necessary rework that left his ap build too unreliable and one hit wonder.
His ap build still deal insane damage...
Faustavian2 votesThis guy^ I don't know why he's downvoted, he's actually, very right. Another really good choice against him is... 
Seriously, anyone with some innate damage that can afford to build tanky in beginning shuts him down so hard. Tank fizz is just a fizz who traded insane AP burst for a lower, but more sustainable approach. "tank fizz" isn't even accurate, it's Bruiser Fizz since he has no CC whatsoever outside of his easily negated ult. (seriously, just buy a 
for tanks and a 
for carries (the MS helps to dodge)) and builds at least some damage. Just play a juggernaut into him.
Pommel Knight2 votesPeople want to hate, they don't want to listen to actual advice. I told them what I couldn't beat as a diamond fizz main, and got downvoted.
Weasel Kensei2 votes...well there are 150+ champs in league time to learn to play somebody else.
#150+ ?
Are you bad at counting because your opinions are ignorant? Or are your opinions ignorant because you are bad at counting?
from the wiki
As of 19 April 2017 there are currently 136 released champions...
Of those 136 (not 150+) several have a hard time laning against Fizz, and tank Fizz can beat a few that he would ordinarily be weak against. Bit of advice, please refrain from "helping others" with such substantive suggestions till you can accurately count the number of champions in the game; k tnx bye.
LostFr0st1 votesIt'll be gone next patch hopefully due to the item changes. No promises on it not being replaced with true damage Gargoyle Stoneplate champions.
Daddy Ants1 votesIt's hilarious the amount of people trying to defend Tank Fizz.
