Watching C9 fall makes me sad

KilljoyX·6/28/2015, 9:04:44 PM·2 votes·946 views

As a C9 fan without Hai they're basically just garbage I never thought I would want Hai back mid but they are picking and banning horribly.

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C9 Scott Free 6/28/2015, 9:07:50 PM2 votes

I tried to warn everyone that Hai was the most important player but no one believed me

Zhugan6/28/2015, 9:15:08 PM1 votes

The problem with C9 is that it doesn't matter how good their players are if they don't have good shot calling, and it is pretty clear at this point that Hai was one of, if not THE, best shotcallers in NA. Even with his mistakes, his shotcalling was so good that it usually didn't matter because C9 could make a win happen somehow anyway.

xJLx MCHammer6/28/2015, 9:07:10 PM1 votes

Yeah incarnation is just bad for them. He is not as oppressive as Hai; he isn't a shot caller; and he can't seem to win lane. He was losing Tdk in lane

I hate to say it it if the team has to play around him, he probably isn't for them

Drunk Rummate6/29/2015, 3:16:37 PM1 votes

The problem is that they're sticking incarnation on all these carry mids when Sneaky is the best player on their team and possibly the best ADC in NA. Just put Incarnation on Orianna and Lulu mid and have him sit on top of Sneaky in fights and watch their winrate skyrocket.

Verandure6/29/2015, 11:29:39 PM1 votes

It honestly feels like a natural extension of their career. Despite putting up great numbers, they've noticeably had a rougher and rougher time as the seasons went on. I honestly think it might just be a meta that doesn't fit their playstyles. I miss the Ashe/Zyra bot lanes.

raunchycooche696/30/2015, 7:57:51 PM1 votes

It's just proof that the best NA has to offer is subpar to other regions. C9 was the hands-down best NA team until other teams (like TSM) started importing players. C9 is just late to the import game. Look how many other teams have a player literally from Korea.

JimmyNtheKudos6/28/2015, 11:14:15 PM1 votes

It's sad, C9 was such a strong team and for a good while have been NA's hope of winning worlds (alongside TSM). I don't think CLG, TL, and GV are world's material as they stand :/