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DoubleLucky (TSM vs C9 spoilers)

Toastey·8/29/2016, 3:23:16 AM·1 votes·837 views

I'm sure by now we've all seen this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hiTsxgHZ19s

I thought it was a bit sketchy how DL lived through that fight and turned the game, so I took a look at the footage in 0.25x speed.

http://orig02.deviantart.net/43bc/f/2016/241/6/a/doublelucky_by_jackbryanreynard-dafsjqf.png

Those look insanely close to hitting--the Rek'sai popup especially looks like it should have hit by all rights. Rek'sai is literally touching Lucian with her snout as she pops up. It looks like the Jhin W is also overlapping with Lucian's coattails, but it's hard to tell with the Bjergsen kill plate and Impact's Mega-Gnar body in the way.

I don't know if it's camera angle, spectator bug, in-game bug, or a combination of the 3, but at least the Rek'sai pop up looked like it definitely should've hit.

Am I calling DL bad? No, he's a marvelous ADC and at one point the world's best. Should he have survived that fight? I'm leaning towards no, but you can make your own judgements.

3 Comments

zacktootall8/29/2016, 3:46:44 AM2 votes

first off the first choice needs to be reworded a little bit more reasonably because the hit box is not the outline of the champ.

i remember reading somewhere that the hit box is a circle around the champs feet (no i do not have a link to the article i read this on so take it as you see fit).

basically i believe your getting tricked by the camera angle. example: pretend i made a small lucian statue. now it is really hard to make a human figure stand on its own two feet, especially with a character model like lucian's so i have the feet on a base. riot have turned that base into the hit box for the champs in the game.

DeltaRaven8/29/2016, 3:54:43 AM2 votes

Nah, I just went back and looked at it and Double wasn't in range for the knockup

ShatteredSkys8/30/2016, 4:33:40 AM1 votes

I'm pretty sure DL wasn't in range of the knockup. Like ZackTooTall mentioned the hitboxes of the champions is not their outline but rather almost at the center of the character's model. So in your picture DL's hitbox isn't by the edge of the model where Meteos clipped with his knockup but a little further where Lucian's head is. Furthermore DL was dashing during the clip so the hitbox is further disproportionate.