game feels so snowbally

I've found ARAM to be a lot of fun right now. Nothing has changed that much, mostly because mana regen is superior there regardless and you don't really notice the item changes aside from the new items.

Just played a few games, seems like a tie for a little bit... then BAM! one team is suddenly winning hard. Not really a bad thing since it can go either way and tanks can actually die for their mistakes.

Maybe ARAM is balanced, but at the cost of the "main" game being broken as hell?

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sorry for the ultra noob question,but what is snowballing? please dont downvote me to oblivion.

It's like a snow ball rolling down a mountain increasing in size/mass becoming impossible to stop.

Using this in video games means that once you get a lead big or small will most likely spell the demise of your opponents since there's nothing they can do to react.

In this context it means taking a small lead or advantage and becoming unstoppable because of it allowing one to take over the game.

This comes from the old cartoon ideas of a small snowball rolling down a hill and becoming a massive boulder moving with great momentum.

For example, say you are Top Lane Renekton. You manage to get first blood, you base with gold+experience advantage, you return with item advantage and level advantage for more stats than your enemy (so you have an advantage from a raw mathematical perspective). Now you can kill top again if he comes to fight or deny him income (cause he will die if he comes out to farm). If you can hit L6, you'll probably be L6 while enemy top is L5 and enemy jungle is L4. You now are beyond stat advantage, you have an extra button to press that they don't, from here you own lane, own farm and will be hard to take down for a long window of time (like until enemy jungler hard farms to L6). During this time you can take over 1/3rd of the map.

Once you've turned enemy laner into a glorified canon minion or taken his tower, you can roam to mid to side lane gank, force down botlane and even invade the jungle, turning 1/2 of the enemy jungle into your own personal scenic forest, you transfer your advantage into putting the enemy behind while getting your team ahead, allowing you to quickly smother the enemy team while closing out the game.

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sorry for the ultra noob question,but what is snowballing? please dont downvote me to oblivion.

You know how a snowball rolls downhill and gets bigger as its rolling cause it's grabing more snow on the way?

Yasuo is the snowball and after he gets 1 kill, he rolls down the hill and keeps grabbing even more on the way down

-clapclapclap- League of Dashes, League of Dashes

I feel the exact opposite. It feels like it's entirely about whoever got strong in the first 5 - 8 minutes is going to dominate the next 10 minutes and end the game around 20m-25m in. I haven't been in any teamfights. I've been a part of goonsquads that mug people under their own turrets, but no 5v5 teamfights over neutral objectives or in space. Someone gets strong, knocks down a tower, rotates to drake/baby baron (Baby Baron always takes someone with him...) and sieges down for a further gold lead - game snowballs like crazy from there.

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Play a tank...?

Not sure if serious or just 2 metas behind.....

Check out the new ADC items and let me know how fun it is to play a tank. I've never been destroyed faster than the current meta as a tanky support mid game.

"I'm tanky guys!"

"LOL ok scrub, I have RFC and Last Whisper is now super cheap and builds into tank buster items, so prephare your body"

yeah but there's no brain in that... i feel like unless you level 2 outplay or you get lucky with a gank early on, you dont really get to showcase any sort of skill

if you stomp, you just two-shot roflstomp everything. if you get stomped, no amount of outplay can get you a comeback.

you forgot blitz. I haven't had a game without one so far.

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Some champs do really good with the new innate gold buff.

Like that abominable soraka nobody likes.

I doubt that the patch was balanced around competitive play entirely. Also, there are well over 80 million players worldwide, bud.

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It could be because everyone is playing snowballs Champions now. Every game ive been in so far is just a bunch of squishies all try to blow each other up. Naturally games like that will go fast...

no, they want the game to snowball, and be done by 20-30 minutes in. This is for two reasons:

1. People don't want to play 40 minute games

2. People REALLY don't want to watch 40 minute LCS games with no fights.

So, now every change is about one thing = force a flashy fight, early and often. Which leads to the game as it is now, which is basically "Did we get first blood and another advantage in the first 5 minutes? Sweet, we win."

Wait until the minion changes go live, you think this is snowbally now?

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It could be because everyone is playing snowballs Champions now. Every game ive been in so far is just a bunch of squishies all try to blow each other up. Naturally games like that will go fast...

Right lol I haven't played a game with a single tank at all usally 5 ad squishies

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It could be because everyone is playing snowballs Champions now. Every game ive been in so far is just a bunch of squishies all try to blow each other up. Naturally games like that will go fast...

People are picking early game snowball champs because thats all that it matters atm

Lee sin,Elise,J4 are insane atm..

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People aren't trading objectives and it makes it seem more snowbally. Even when behind you can get objectives quickly. Pressure seems more important than ever. Junglers will have a lot to do this season and a lot of pressure on them to perform and get off ganks.

I would guess Cross map objectives would be easier if taking them were easier.

YoloQ or otherwise, it's harder to make informed decisions on cross map objectives because the vision has been reduced.