I think CLG will do much better at Worlds than people expect. They are playing their best right now and have some serious momentum. They probably have the best bot lane in NA, probably the best top in NA, and a solid mid and jungler. Their chemistry and shot calling is really good at the moment.
While I don't think they will win it, I think they will represent pretty well.
Count Buffon1 votesI'll go ahead and call it 50-50 for getting out of group stage. The 3rd seed will have a really hard time scraping by, though.
So I probably give them a little more credit than most, but not as much as you.
Lugg1 votesIf they go .500 at Worlds, I will be very happy.
xJLx MCHammer1 votesIf you compare the map rotation of teams like CLG, TSM, and TL, to the top teams in other region like SKT, LGD, FNC..etc, you can see there is a GAP. As far as the players individual skills go, I think every team player from every region is relatively the same. The only difference is, NA seems to just lack the rotations that other teams have.
I like NA, specifically, TSM and C9; i do want them to win, but I just can't see it. They make much more mistakes then the other top teams from other regions.
I have seen what group they will be in yet or who they will be facing so I want make that call just yet
Lugg1 votesI agree that NA isn't as good on rotations as the other major regions. They do show signs of being good, but they are nowhere near as consistent.
CLG has a good chance to end up in a relatively easier group. The #2 and #3 teams from NA are going to have it really rough though.
Ale non è male1 votesCLG has a good chance to end up in a relatively easier group. The #2 and #3 teams from NA are going to have it really rough though.
Ehm...no. Unfortunately they are not going to get a any easier group because of the #1 seed, they just make sure to avoid FNC, LGD and whatever team is #1 in Korea - likely SKT - which is surely good, but given that they can't get in pot 2 the NA team, they will have in the draw #2 and #3 teams from both Korea and China, #1 and #2 team from LMS and H2k
This means that unless they have incredible luck by getting both of H2k (and, H2K is not aan easy match-up at all for them, as their historic strength is macro play which was really the advantage CLG showed vs the other NA teams in this LCS split) and yoe Flash Wolves - thus avoiding also the #3 europe team from pot #3 and getting an IWCI wild card team in pot 4 - they could end up to play vs at least 1 if not 2 teams from China/Korea or by the way get aHQ along a Chinese/Korean team
Paradoxically among the 1st seeds they are the team which could end up having the most difficult group and they could end up having a more difficult group than NA #2 team
Best scenario for CLG would be something like: CLG, H2K, yoe Flash Wolves, IWC team
Worst scenario for CLG would be something like: CLG, #2 Korean team, #2 Chinese team (or aHQ), #3 EU team
Middle ground scenario for CLG would be something like: CLG, #2 Korean/Chinese team (or aHQ), H2K, Iwci team (or #2 LMS team and #3 EU team)
Lugg1 votesI totally agree there won't be an easy group. That's why I said relatively. From what I read about the setup, they won't have to face the #1 teams from China, Korea, or EU since they all will be separated into the 4 groups. That was the benefit of being the #1 seed for your region. However, the #2 teams are all very good as well. I just like that fact that there isn't a clear favorite at the moment, that makes for much more exciting games to watch.
Ale non è male1 votesThe problem, imho, is that as far as strength goes, no NA team is actually a 1 tier team... so while it is true that being the 1st seed allows you to avoid to play vs LGD/FNC/#1 Korea(probably SKT), it is also true that unless extreme luck happens in the draw, CLG will end up drafting two teams of level comparable or slighlty better strength than them, making the entire group very difficult, while if they hypotetically were in pot 2 they would have surely found a teams stronger than them from pot 1 (LGD/FNC/#1 Korea), but paradoxically they had to draw only 1 other team from the group of teams of comparable strength and at that point with the region restrictions that there are in the draw they could have ended up facing a stronger team but an easier group in the end...
So really, it is no difference for them towards the goal of go throughout group stage and get to playoffs
Lugg1 votesI agree, that's why I have been saying in some of my posts that I will be proud if CLG goes .500 in group.
grimrookzero1 votesi want 2 agree but the truth is na is the weakest of the regions and will most likely get bounced out fast
awer4553DAFERdaB1 votesPeople saying NA is the weakest region - Yea i agree on the overall view of the LCS.
But i do believe CLG is on top of all NA teams by a margin. They have great macro play for NA standards. Na teams usually just play insanely sluggish and even if they'd get ahead by some miracle they'd give away the lead slowly just simply cause they're bad at macro.
It's the first time since like 3 seasons i'm seeing a NA team playing the macro correctly in flow with the meta. CLG is gonna suprise people for sure. TSM has been insanely , insanely overrated ( quite honestly they arent much better than a wildcard )
Zionspartan thinks CLG can win worlds with their current lineup - i think thats a bit, or alot to far quite honestly but I do think CLG can at least show something. They're doing well but the competition is huge this year is what i feel like.
Theres big competition this year, so quite honestly i dont think it's going to be up to CLG on how they perform, its gonna be up to the other teams if they drop the ball, other teams are giong to be underperforming heavily and CLG has to be on their prime if they wanna get to quarters/semi's. But if theres an NA team, for sure its CLG.
props for CLG, finally a team NA tthat plays the macro right.
xJLx MCHammer1 votesPeople saying NA is the weakest region - Yea i agree on the overall view of the LCS.
But i do believe CLG is on top of all NA teams by a margin. They have great macro play for NA standards. Na teams usually just play insanely sluggish and even if they'd get ahead by some miracle they'd give away the lead slowly just simply cause they're bad at macro.
It's the first time since like 3 seasons i'm seeing a NA team playing the macro correctly in flow with the meta. CLG is gonna suprise people for sure. TSM has been insanely , insanely overrated ( quite honestly they arent much better than a wildcard )
Zionspartan thinks CLG can win worlds with their current lineup - i think thats a bit, or alot to far quite honestly but I do think CLG can at least show something. They're doing well but the competition is huge this year is what i feel like.
Theres big competition this year, so quite honestly i dont think it's going to be up to CLG on how they perform, its gonna be up to the other teams if they drop the ball, other teams are giong to be underperforming heavily and CLG has to be on their prime if they wanna get to quarters/semi's. But if theres an NA team, for sure its CLG.
props for CLG, finally a team NA tthat plays the macro right.
At CLG's best, they might be the best by a large margin at this points. Yet, that's what happened last split in the first half; they consistently destroyed every team with record timing, barons, dragons..etc. Yet, second half of the second, they got thrown into relagation. They just aren't consistent.