The following eSports pros have come out in support of Nightblue3, justifying his rage, his toxicity, his afk, and his use of a personal connection within RIOT to get another player banned.
Doublelift Jensen
I’ll continue to update the list if I see any more. Feel free to add in the comments so we can keep track of more pros who openly support this pathetic situation. We need to hold these privileged babies accountable because RIOT won’t.
CrazyMonkeyCZ5 votes3 teammates agreed on opening, it was 2:9 with huge gold lead, smartest thing to do, fck of with NA never surr mentality.
Besides calling him trash, bisch and telling him that he will get banned for trolling he said nothing bad. I would personally pick on his fat body, how he has christmas tree still up, while exposing how he aims for streamers to leech of them, he is same if not worse than NB3, NB3 is at least open and talks what he thinks(probably), Noobrat is just fake trying to get attention.
Never thought I would stand up for NB3, but I'm glad he helped to get rid of this trash.
Pros said that they agree on banning that trashcan player, not that they agree with NB3 behaviour.
kubsar wannabe2 votes2 teammates didnt agree on opening, if you wanna surrender you need at least 4 people saying yes , not 3, 2:9 with huge gold lead is still comeback-able just it's really really hard since it's challenger (on NA tho), he can't flame anyone without facing consequences of his actions, Riot has double standards, Nubrac gets banned for "troll" but NB3 didnt face any consequences for afk or flame.
CrazyMonkeyCZ1 votes[{quoted}](name=kubsar wannabe,realm=EUNE,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=h2KI7iu9,comment-id=00000000,timestamp=2019-06-16T11:31:49.942+0000)
2 teammates didnt agree on opening, if you wanna surrender you need at least 4 people saying yes , not 3, 2:9 with huge gold lead is still comeback-able just it's really really hard since it's challenger (on NA tho), he can't flame anyone without facing consequences of his actions, Riot has double standards, Nubrac gets banned for "troll" but NB3 didnt face any consequences for afk or flame.
1 of teammates is irrelevant since it's trolling Teemo that wants as much time as he can to be in NB3 stream.
Literally fuck off with "iT's WiNnAblE" argument, look at that game if you want, they opened rightfully, Neeko wasn't against opening just kept on playing.
You don't know if he was reported, if yes, it make take some time to stuck it up to the point of ban/chat restriction. Calling someone trash and bisch shouldn't and won't get you banned.
IncrediPhiLL3 votesI don’t fully have a problem with Nubrac getting punished, but Nightblue3 should be punished as well. Plain and simple.
Kanzler1 votesFor one game worth of chat?
IncrediPhiLL3 votesToxic, grieving, and afk... and I think the biggest problem is that Nubrac never would have been banned had Nightblue3 not personally seen to it himself by contacting a friend from RIOT personally, who apologized to him for the delay in the ban... it's just so out of whack that RIOT would cater to this kid and it most certainly isn't fair. Nighblue3 should get a ban and that RIOT employee should get fired.
Kanzler2 votesNobody is banned for 1 game worth of chat unless you break the single tolerance rule.
AFK punishments also require persistent actions.
As far as I saw, most of the team decided to open mid because of the teemo troll.
So again, what exactly do you consider ban worthy from 1 game of evidence?
Velzard of Koz5 votesI'd rather NB to be punished too, but this thread is slightly dishonest. Most of these people simply, without defending NB3, said that Nubrac deserved it because he ruined their games too and he has been allegedly doing this for longer time and he had it coming.
DL simply said that If he was in his last promo game and someone did this strat (that basically allows majority of enemy team to get ahead in gold and exp for free) he'd report them too.
ICU simply said NB3 did high elo community favor because Nubrac was just sabotaging games.
I'd recommend people who actually care about non-biased opinions to look up twitter posts of people in the list, the twitter posts conviniently ommitted, the twitter posts providing context. Then decide If you think they actually defend toxic streamer or are just glad another troll streamer got finally punished or both.
IncrediPhiLL2 votesI think your statement is fair, as neither player acknowledged Nightblue3 in their post. What they did do was condemn the roaming Teemo support strat, say that Nubrac SHOULD have been banned, and then conveniently left Nightblue3 out of the discussion.
All I'm saying is this: Doublelift and Jensen (who both have a reputation for being incredibly toxic in the past themselves... just saying) specifically went out of their way to call out Nubrac and say the ban was justified (I don't care if it was or it wasn't, personally. My problem isn't with that), while not having any opinion on Nightblue3 himself and wether or not what he did was wrong. Nightblue3 SHARED both of these tweets to defend himself and his actions as a specific way to show that he had pro player support to do what he did. Wether Jensen or Doublelift meant it to be support for Nightblue3 or not is really no longer relevant, as Nighblue3 has now used them both to justify his actions.
It's a messy situation. The pro players should have just stayed out of it... but alas, here we are. I think that's why i haven't been able to find any other pro players who have come out in support of Nightblue3, because most of them genuinely feel what we all feel: You either ban them both, or let them both go.
Velzard of Koz3 votesI agree with most of this except that they should've stayed out of it. They provided NB3 with ammunition but also provided important context that Nubrac was the problem (too) not just the victim. That's important because some people don't have the mentality "boíth should be banned" but "Nubrac is victim". NB3 was displayed as "not the victim" in most popular threads, pros simply pointed out Nubrac isn't victim either.
All in all, I mostly agree with it being "messy situation". Nubrac goes unpunished for several seasons (according to the pro players), Riot proves he picks this "strategy" to specifically troll streamers yet the action is done through NB3 having connection. Regardless of NB3 deserving ban too, regardless of Nubrac being justifiedly banned, that alone feels shitty. Majority of playerbase is in low elo, non-streamers, we get trolled all the time but don't get this treatment because we don't have the prestigue. The logic would be that there is less streamers, less people in high elo so it's easier to review them manually, but that point is compromised by Nubrac doing this for long time. Messy and shitty.
Next thing is offmeta versus trolling. Riot pulls out vague "think of your team's need" but also "Is it meta" video promoting 6 Wit's End Diana. They wanted to be playful but it came across as pretense that this game actually supports such liberal playstyles while it doesn't, they don't do much for it to do, they probably even cannot do that without creating abuse strats and they ban margin cases. Honestly there is no good in this pit. None of us would want to have our promos ruined by faulty strategy, all of us would like to play game with many choices. Messy and shitty.
Finally, it's streamers prohibiting behaviour which gets normal players punished while they go unpunished. If you called someone r-word because they genuinly troll and you get justifiedly frustrated, you get Riot Support and most of PB Boards riding on you with their high horse of "Someone doing bad thing doesn't justify you doing one too", but these things get ignored when done by high elo stramers. And If they strated actually banning such people that would be like 80% of popular streamer scene, a lot of lost viewers a lot of lost revenue. Messy and shitty.
I just don't think there's any solution.
IncrediPhiLL2 votesWell said.
IncrediPhiLL2 votes[{quoted}](name=Velzard of Koz,realm=EUNE,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=h2KI7iu9,comment-id=0003,timestamp=2019-06-16T13:11:24.980+0000)
the twitter posts conviniently committed,
Sorry, not trying to personally omit the tweets, I just genuinely don't know how to share them on here XD
Velzard of Koz1 votesIn that case it's still better to just copy-paste what they said as quote.
BLACK REALM GOD2 votesEvery time something like this happens... I become too scared to play league because I don't want to be banned for not having friends. All it takes is a 4 man premade in blind/draft/aram/etc. or 2 premades that are in discord with one another to convince each other that the odd man out is trolling. Once a team decides the solo player is trolling there's no winning that game.
doesn't matter if you're playing a 5 million mastery point Ivern jungle or a 500 million mastery point Soraka mid. And that's sad.
I played shyvanna 3 days ago in jungle. I took every camp and epic monster, but because I was ultra focused on jungle clearing the team started calling me a troll. In that situation all you can do is mute. It's sickening how anyone could think that a player or a group of players should be allowed to single out the solo player. It's literally the salem witch trials and professional streamers are the reason why it's happening. They're putting doubts into players minds by creating their "troll" compilation videos and "smurfing" accounts. Then they verbally harass and insult players on their streams without getting punished because twitch doesn't monitor that sort of behavior. Then those viewers go out and spread the good word that "x champ is a troll pick" because ______ said so.
0megon2 votesThe following eSports pros have come out in support of Nightblue3, justifying his rage, his toxicity, his afk, and his use of a personal connection within RIOT to get another player banned.
Doublelift Jensen
I’ll continue to update the list if I see any more. Feel free to add in the comments so we can keep track of more pros who openly support this pathetic situation. We need to hold these privileged babies accountable because RIOT won’t.
Could you please post sources? Because from what I've seen they are condemning Nubrac and his strat but they are not really supporting NB3 and his behavior.
BigBellBrute2 votesNo doublelift and jensen did not say they supported NB3.
Doublelift. guys if I was in my promo and game 5 a teemo support ran mid and soaked xp while I got zoned 1v2 I would 100% report it no questions asked
Jensen. imagine having a teemo support soaking xp mid and calling it a 'off meta strat' hopefully i'll never have to experience this strat :)
No support for NB3 in those statements.
Dzuru2 votesplayers who support nubrac are either braindamaged or lowelo. I am not defending nb3 but his toxicity is still small compared to nonstreamers in this situation so I don't know why few players go out and say ban him for his toxicity xD You are lying to yourself if you think you wouldnt be tilted if someone did this teemo strat on your team. If riot hadnt banned him they would have openly showed that trolling is fine. Even if 2 players are afk in that game irelia and sivir would have been enough for open the game. why would he waste his time playing with a troll.
boricCentaur11 votesWhat? Are you trolling? Like WHY WOULD RIOT NOT LISTEN TO THEM. One: high elo and pros know the rules and there is no insensitive to banned the wrong people since it would just hurt them. Two: riot can seen the game live meaning it is easier to ban. Three: banning people like this is good both for the people playing and the people watching since it shows that trolls do get punished. Four: BASICALLY EVERY GAME DOES THIS like almost every game does this. Five: most popular steamers and pros are in high elo meaning banning has more impact since there is less people and it's easier to find out if someone is trolling.
Like if you actually think is a problem you need to get off your fucking high horse then THINK AND STOP TALKING ABOUT IT SINCE YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT. Like doing this is perfectly fine and there is nothing wrong with it.
IncrediPhiLL2 votesYou only further prove the point. Nightblue3 raged, went afk, and griefed. As you state, he is a high profile streamer and the whole thing was caught on camera. No room for players like him in high ELO. The proof is there. This should be a no brainer ban.
Your idea that streamers systematically get special treatment because they are popular streamers is the entire problem. Thank you for pointing it out, as that’s why we’re all pissed in the first place.
boricCentaur11 votesUmmm nightblue did nothing to get a ban I hate to break this to you but one game can't get you banned. At most he should get a chat restriction.
Streamers should get special treatment EVERY GAME DOES IT FOR A REASON AND I POINTED IT OUT AS TO WHY THEY SHOULD.
If you are pisssed that they get special treatment then you need help like seriously this is a nonissue and there is basically 0 negatives to making it easier for a steamer to get someone banned.
Like stop being biased and think since I can give better reasons to why he should be banned then what you gave.
IncrediPhiLL1 votesI spy a Nightblue fan... argue what you want, but yes. Going afk, raging, griefing, and personally contacting a friend from RIOT to get someone banned should be bannable.
boricCentaur11 votesGuy you don't get banned for toxic or afk for one game you have to do it many times for EVEN A CHAT BAN. Also contacting someone as a big streamer is good AGAIN THERE ARE 0 NEGATIVES.
Again stop being biased.
IncrediPhiLL1 votesA big time streamer should be treated the exact same as any of the rest of us. RIOT should not give special benefits to people who stream their game, especially in the tribunal. Come on. That's blatant discrimination.
ChompyWulf1 votesAll I'm going to say is that Jensen is the absolute last person ever to have a say ever on another players actions ever and who/what deserves punishment, ever. Asshole never should have had his ban lifted and I can't wait to celebrate his retirement.