Anyone find Worlds 2017 lacking?

Dukues·Oct 9, 2017·2 votes·1,379 views

I will admit Worlds 2016 was the first worlds I actually watch most of besides just a couple random games. But last year I was extremely into worlds especially the first 2 weeks. There were so many upsets, so many cool stories. Game play was fast paced and fun to watch especially in group stage.

So before World's 2017 start I was so excited! I even took work off Thursday since I planned to get up and watch the games in the morning. I think part of it is definitely the time zone difference with worlds being in China this year instead of NA. But even with the large time change I still find this years worlds boring compared to last year. And NA is even doing really well through week 1.....

Day 1 was ok with it being the first day of worlds. By far my favorite game of the tournament so far was FNC vs GAM. I was literally laughing out loud with the craziness of that game. And yea.. .there have been some other upsets and great moments. LIke SKT being down 10k gold to EDG and that sick 5 man ace by SKT to instantly bring the game back and win. Yea that was great. But like.... after day 2 of worlds I pretty much lost all energy to even watch most games. I watched the NA games but even found myself skipping ahead in some of those as well. And a lot of the games the last 2 days I skip 15-20 mins into and literally miss nothing..... like first kill happen right around then.

Ardent censor bot meta makes me want to puke. Sucks having to watch that rest of the tournament.

People complain about always seeing and but I would much rather watch pros play them in games than every game.

Top mostly but at least we have seen some interesting changes.

Pretty much just happy to watch NA games at this point and GAM. NA because NA fan and GAM because at least something interesting might happen early in their games.

All these posts about problems with season 7 are correct. And ironically... with all these changes made by Riot to make LCS games more exciting... the literal opposite happened while simultaneously making solo queue games in season 7 more boring.

So happy season 7 almost over. Already kind of tired of worlds 2017 and hope 2018 will be more exciting. Only saving grace now is maybe NA teams will make it out of groups and 1 will not play a Korean team in quarters.... which lets face it based on history more than even 1 NA team getting out of groups is low chance and even if they do most likely have to play Korean team, which once again Korean teams look amazing. Yea SSG has had some struggles but no doubt they will only get better as the tournament goes on just like the rest of the Korean teams. Maybe NA will learn from week 1 this year and not shit the bed in week 2? Only time will tell.

17 Comments

BigBellBruteOct 9, 20172 votes

The trouble this year is that two whole classes of characters are unviable and another is barely viable.

Meteor DrizOct 9, 20172 votes

Since NA is actually looking the most respectable I've ever seen them look, I am more into this worlds than any other and I've watched since s3.

DukuesOct 10, 20171 votes

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Since NA is actually looking the most respectable I've ever seen them look, I am more into this worlds than any other and I've watched since s3.

Watching them last year they really struggled in the mid/late game and look better at it this year. Going to be a tough week 2 though hope they can stay strong!

ChompyWulfOct 9, 20172 votes

I think season 4 and 5 were worse because over the whole course of the tournament it became clear White and SKT were going to win. This year seems pretty competitive so far.

FableBlazeOct 9, 20172 votes

Honestly i am still quite enjoying it. Some games are too slow and predictable but there has been many interesting games. FNC vs IMT for example kept me at the edge of my seat. The picks have not bee too bad either. Quite a bit of interesting stuff like trundle, nocturne, nasus, ekko. I did not expect to see the last three of these champions at all this worlds. And all of these have been so refreshing to see. It gives me the feeling that there is more surprising stuff that can come out.

However the item 3504 cancer is just so bad. I do not remember bot lane ever being so stale as it is now. item 3070

GeminiRuneOct 9, 20171 votes

Personally, I found the Play-In more exciting. In general, I don't think it's all that lacking in a sense. Less risky picks taken and fights that flip the game on a whim; those are reasons that do sort of irk me.

Imagine if each game that had a comeback scenario off of a single teamfight hadn't happened. We'd have the likes of SKT or SSG potentially at a 1-2 record. TSM could be 0-3. IMT could top the standings of Group B! And that's just one of those irks.

BigBellBruteOct 9, 20171 votes

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Personally, I found the Play-In more exciting. In general, I don't think it's all that lacking in a sense. Less risky picks taken and fights that flip the game on a whim; those are reasons that do sort of irk me.

Imagine if each game that had a comeback scenario off of a single teamfight hadn't happened. We'd have the likes of SKT or SSG potentially at a 1-2 record. TSM could be 0-3. IMT could top the standings of Group B! And that's just one of those irks.

This meta definitely favors TSM. But I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

MazariamontiOct 10, 20171 votes

So you would prefer the game to be basically over by ten minutes?

GeminiRuneOct 10, 20171 votes

Not what I'm implying at all. I'm not thinking into the early game when I say that either.

Scenarios where teams are losing convincingly most of the time only to clutch out a comeback off of a single teamfight in their favor and flip the whole game off of the opposing team's lack of defensive and objective measures is what I'm referring to. The games that should have been winnable for the losing team.

You've had those cases (from the Korean teams more ironically enough) and then you've had the more defense vs defense games (TSM vs FW, AHQ vs EDG) though while they aren't clean are at least tense.

DukuesOct 10, 20171 votes

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So you would prefer the game to be basically over by ten minutes?

Not that but more action going on. When assasins/bruisers are more viable players look to setup earlier picks. But now the only thing teams try to do for the most part is get a 4 - 5 man dive bot to take first turret really quickly and pickup some kills. And since that is a viable threat no one wants to play aggressive for fear of messing up and facing a large disadvantage.

MazariamontiOct 10, 20171 votes

"But now the only thing teams try to do is get a 4-5 an dive bot" -------- "no one wants to play aggressive for fear of messing up"

Something doesn't add up there.

DukuesOct 10, 20171 votes

Originally thought you were talking to me but now see what you were replying to, which to be honest I was confused by that persons comment as well.

What I was saying however poorly is the only real early game risk teams are willing to take is diving bot turret 4 or 5 man. Bot laners don't want to trade in fear of getting too low. Junglers once in a great while trying to gank bot but usually mid joins as well if not tp from top. But teams know enemy looking at that as well so usually nothing ends up happening anymore until like 15-20 mins into the game when players have a couple items and teams are willing to exit the laning phase.

Last year there was more 2 or 3 man ganking with lane phase ending sooner than waiting for 15-20 min mark.Part is probably teams getting better and managing vision and their play better. But most games also have peel supports for ardent censor and keeping adc alive while having tank junglers who are not the best for applying pressure early game.

MysterQOct 9, 20171 votes

Group stages just aren't fun most of the time. Most of the groups are easy to read, so it won't be until the final 8 KO that is it interesting.

Although some groups are competitive like GroupD.

HellmetOct 10, 20171 votes

Only thing sucking this year is the games starting at 2am. It's a bit of an adventure trying to watch the games without getting hit by spoilers.

DukuesOct 10, 20171 votes

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Only thing sucking this year is the games starting at 2am. It's a bit of an adventure trying to watch the games without getting hit by spoilers.

True. I decided I am done trying to watch them early except maybe one day this weekend. It just too hard to plan your day around it and I am sick of being tired all day lol. I already drink a lot of caffeine don't need another reason. I am just going to watch the vods later when I have time. It does suck though because I like looking at League's reddit but can't really without fear of some spoilers. It also fun seeing the post game discussions right after a game but they can still be checked out later and it's still fine/fun to read.

BigBellBruteOct 11, 20171 votes

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Only thing sucking this year is the games starting at 2am. It's a bit of an adventure trying to watch the games without getting hit by spoilers.

Well this week they start at midnight eastern 9pm pacific.

Kirius DarkOct 11, 20171 votes

We'll see more off picks and off the wall strats once the groups stage is over because right now when things are best of 1 and every game counts they'll all play the best meta. They'll be saving their ace in the hole for a specific match for a specific team when they can change things up in best of 5s