Yes, Sven is bad, but...

IncrediPhiLL·Oct 14, 2017·2 votes·682 views

Sven has been an awful JG for a while, but DL has been the downfall of TSM at worlds last year and now this year. All these NA teams need to understand that DL is not gonna be the guy to get you the trophy. He’s toxic. He’s cocky. And he doesn’t have the mechanics to back it up. He’s been carried by good supports since he came into the league.

Stop blaming it all on Sven when he clearly isn’t the only problem. Bio and Bjerg are the only 2 reliable TSM players. (Yes, even Hauntzer has struggled in the past).

9 Comments

xJLx MCHammerOct 14, 20173 votes

Totally agree. Sven played bad but it's more on Doublelift. It's an late game ADC meta; he loses to a Cait. The same Cait that had a 43% winrate and required multiple buffs to put her back in good shape. Doublelift can't play Twitch, he was in stealth under his tower hoping for a mistake that only bad teams do. This is #3 seed from China, they aren't Fox

Better JunglerOct 14, 20173 votes

Disagree completely. Sven is a terrible jungler at that level of play. Doublelift (despite me not liking him as a person) is a good adc. He has solid plays and does his job. I used to think xsmithie was the worst jungler in LCS, but sven's taken his spot. Xspecial has improved alot though to be fair.

IncrediPhiLLOct 14, 20171 votes

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Disagree completely. Sven is a terrible jungler at that level of play. Doublelift (despite me not liking him as a person) is a good adc. He has solid plays and does his job. I used to think xsmithie was the worst jungler in LCS, but sven's taken his spot. Xspecial has improved alot though to be fair.

What did I just read?

xJLx MCHammerOct 14, 20171 votes

[{quoted}](name=Better Jungler,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=dErITkLV,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2017-10-14T06:40:45.120+0000)

Disagree completely. Sven is a terrible jungler at that level of play. Doublelift (despite me not liking him as a person) is a good adc. He has solid plays and does his job. I used to think xsmithie was the worst jungler in LCS, but sven's taken his spot. Xspecial has improved alot though to be fair.

There you go,

xSmithie bad? Really? The guy that got IMT to #2?

Please! Sure he aint the best but the worst? And it's funny you start attacking Sven now, He has been part of TSM for nearly 4 splits

Better JunglerOct 14, 20172 votes

[{quoted}](name=xJLx MCHammer,realm=NA,application-id=9hBQwnEU,discussion-id=dErITkLV,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2017-10-14T06:44:05.470+0000)

There you go,

xSmithie bad? Really? The guy that got IMT to #2?

Please! Sure he aint the best but the worst? And it's funny you start attacking Sven now, He has been part of TSM for nearly 4 splits

Yes, look back at xsmithies performance on clg, the dude was easily the worst part of the team. Once they replaced him even huhi became a god. Xsmithie is still bad, he just has a team thats much more forgiving for his playstyle. If he makes a mistake, immortals is there to fix it, on clg it just put the whole team behind.

Also, I didnt just randomly "attack" sven,. someone made a boards post about him, and I replied to it. It wasnt like I just decided to randomly bring him up.. Much like in worlds, the dude is irrelevant.