MONTHS OF HAVING TO TAKE YOUR 'KABUM' CRAP

MCBiggah99·Oct 8, 2015·5 votes·968 views

BR > NA #1, KARMA.

14 Comments

ZhuganOct 8, 20152 votes

Congrats? I mean, #7 NA>#1 EU... So what does that say about the EU scene?

JimmyNtheKudosOct 8, 20155 votes

All it proves is the superiority debates are stupid...

MCBiggah99Oct 8, 20152 votes

They're 2nd NA when it comes to the most recent statistics, nice try though.

ZhuganOct 8, 20152 votes

No, based on recent stats C9 is #1 NA and CLG is, at best, #2. Don't try to spin shit to make your ridiculous argument still have some sort of non-existent weight.

Either #1 NA lost to BR and #7 NA > #1 EU.

#2 NA lost to BR and #1 NA > #1 EU... Neither of which is really a victory for the EU, is it?

HELL, even in your perverse world view... BR>#1NA, AND #2NA>#1EU. That still has Brazil being better than the entirety of Europe. So, what exactly is your point again?

MCBiggah99Oct 8, 20151 votes

CLG and C9 have not had games against each other in Worlds so far, nor have the teams in their groups played against one another yet. The last accurate stat you can take is from C9's gauntlet and CLG's #1 spot, which puts CLG at #1 and C9 at #2.

You wanted a non-perverse world view? There ya go, pure statistics.

I like how you tried to get a cheap shot by going "#7 NA > #1 EU" and went on the defensive as soon as you saw that I can disprove it.

Furthermore, to add onto that logic of yours, we could go on and say that Kabum > Najin too. I mean, it makes sense right? (Kappa)

Thanks for the support Gaxx.

ZhuganOct 8, 20151 votes

Okay, once again you don't understand how the world seeds work.

At best, C9 is #3 NA because it goes: Winner of Summer Playoffs is first, team with the most points is second, and winner of the gauntlet is third. But, continue trying to warp things to make them sound better for EU if that makes you feel good.

That said, C9 finished 7th. By the same accuracy with which you say "BR>NA", I can say "#7 NA > #1 EU". Or did you forget that CLG split 1-1 with Pain which means they are (at worst) as good as Pain?

Your whole point is asinine when taken to the end of its logic, which was my point. Thanks for agreeing with me that your entire argument is insipid past the point of reason.

MCBiggah99Oct 8, 20151 votes

I do not consider the 7th place spot accurate whatsoever because of the roster swaps and the entire factor where C9 have to get used to one another again, fine if you do but that's not how it works. TSM ended up falling off hard, very hard, I think you'd have to be joking in a really sick and twisted way to claim that TSM > C9 currently. I could call C9 2nd or 1st right now, but CLG and C9 haven't played each other yet, which is why I decided to go by the stats and call C9 2nd after their gauntlet run and CLG 1st by their bo5.

The best part about CLG losing to Kab- Pain was that I got to have my cake and eat it too, months of "Kabum > #1 EU 4Head EleGiggle" does make a person quite salty. Yes, I did not work off of logic, but boy was I happy.

ZhuganOct 8, 20151 votes

The 7th place slot isn't accurate, but calling them 2nd place isn't either. They were 3rd, plain and simple. Maybe, just maybe, if they had made the play-offs they would've been first or second, but they didn't make the play-offs and had to do a miracle run through the gauntlet. Yeah, that was impressive, but it doesn't mean they are second. Origen is 3rd place EU even though they are decisively better than H2K and have played better so far at this tournament than Fnatic has.

And as salty as you may claim to be, I am pretty sure I've seen more threads on these boards talking about how bad "amerifats" (or other such colorful euphemisms) than I have people bashing EU. (As an aside, at no point was Alliance NOT overrated. Mostly because Froggen has been overrated for the better part of the past two years. He was great once, one of the best even, but he just isn't now.)

Gaxx DOct 8, 20152 votes

Yes, and since LGD won against EDG and is a reigning champion of LPL, and then they've proven almost half a year ago to be better in bo5s than SKT, who are considered the main contender for the title this year, and then lost to Origen, TSM and KT, that means that these are the TOP3 teams in the world. We can go even further and point out teams like T8 or Dignitas who won against TSM in summer split. Yeah, it just doesn't work that way.

ZhuganOct 8, 20151 votes

I agree, but if OP is gonna make ridiculous arguments I am more than happy to draw those arguments to their logical end points that has BR>NA>EU. Because the OP's attempt of a point is how bad NA is, when EU has been just as good/bad as NA is so far at this tournament.

Smart KittyOct 8, 20152 votes

Meanwhile we take years of having to hear of your season 1 worlds victory. You haven't suffered much in comparison.

MCBiggah99Oct 8, 20151 votes

That one is easily comebackable with a simple "S1 was in Phreak's basement" comment, you guys needed some karma after all of the Kabum we've had to suffer through in twitch chat.

LintheOct 8, 20152 votes

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BR > NA #1, KARMA.

Karma?? What does that have to do with anything?? Your post is standard EU salt.

Thread ~~delivers~~

Dr PoroOct 8, 20151 votes

What's up with the NA and EU conflict? I was supporting for CLG and still supporting for C9 (Not a fan of TSM). I hope c9 and FNC make it out of group B ^_^ FNC will have to step up their game, though, and stop throwing after getting a big lead. But for all we know, IG can suddenly step up their game aswell and 3-0. Or even AHQ. All of these have a pretty good chance of getting qualified. I think this is the most tensive group. They're all pretty close to eachother imo, each of them having their own flaws.