TSM, back to square one

Lugg·5/8/2015, 10:27:14 PM·3 votes·1,042 views

I think the MSI has shown that TSM's strategy and gameplay cannot win on the international scene. It iworks against average teams, but great teams destroy them utterly. Leaving your top lane totally on their own, what idiot came up with that one? Anyone with a shred of common sense knows that a smart team will abuse that so bad that you can't win. Bjerg on champs that can't roam? Dyrus on non tank champs? TSM needs to fire their coach and analysts and start over if they actually want to ever have a chance of winning worlds.

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AndyChrono5/8/2015, 10:36:30 PM3 votes

JMO:

TSM has so far won NA with:

Have the best mid laner in NA win his lane
Other lanes go even or at least just don't lose too hard
Bjergsen carries or snowballs lead into other lanes
TSM wins!

Note that this strategy relies on #1 being true. If #1 doesn't come to pass, then TSM usually loses. Many of the games they lost this season have been games where Bjergsen gets shut down (the Keane Urgot game vs Zed comes to mind) and the strategy falls apart because the other lanes can't pick up the slack.

Now in international play, there are A LOT stronger mids compared to the NA scene so point #1 doesn't come to pass. There are also a lot stronger players in the other positions as well, so #2 also doesn't come to pass. Hence, the entire strategy falls apart.

KazaLyn Shao5/9/2015, 12:53:42 AM2 votes

I think you mean square negative one. This last showing was worse than all those before it.

Lord Yunii5/8/2015, 10:29:42 PM2 votes

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I think the MSI has shown that TSM's strategy and gameplay cannot win on the international scene. It iworks against average teams, but great teams destroy them utterly. Leaving your top lane totally on their own, what idiot came up with that one? Anyone with a shred of common sense knows that a smart team will abuse that so bad that you can't win. Bjerg on champs that can't roam? Dyrus on non tank champs? TSM needs to fire their coach and analysts and start over if they actually want to ever have a chance of winning worlds.

They need to do a lot more than that. Dyrus should retire and at this point Wildturtle should probably be benched. I think Reggie should sell his team to a better owner and Riot should learn to make money on teams not named TSM.

pE4CbxDPQO5/9/2015, 3:11:30 AM1 votes

Guys the patch hasn't been going all that long. They won IEM not long ago. I'm sure they will be in shape for worlds. I must agree that Dyrus is a detriment though. It's really upsetting. Also, not sure where Santorin's head was the last couple of days- he was a dream send most of the season. I mean, in the game vs FNC he ganked zero times all game.

Stacona5/9/2015, 12:07:39 AM1 votes

TSM isn't even playing their game, don't post things when you don't know what you are talking about

They are picking weird things and playing in a weird way, thing be different if they played like how they did in the NA LCS, but they are pretty much playing like a Bronze team in Challenger; they did not play this way to beat NA because they would have been relegated if they did

PoisonedTea5/8/2015, 10:55:27 PM1 votes

Or TSM could just work on helping make their jungler better. If what we see here is the jungler as the biggest weakness it is a weakness they can sure up. Not by replacing Santorin just helping him to become a better player.

RyzeRework5/9/2015, 12:27:01 AM1 votes

they arent even trying you can tell there playing stupid for some reason? seems like there selling out, they owned iem which was filled with very great teams you forget GE CJ SK and flash wolves were all in there pre cinderhulk patch were the teams started to fail i just feel like tsm isnt even trying